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#1 Posted : 07 October 2005 13:23:00(UTC)
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Posted By Annette Crave Wow... I see that IOSH have already awarded the title of CMIOH.... Try a google search for "Chartered Safety and Health Practitioner" and see what you find!
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#2 Posted : 07 October 2005 13:38:00(UTC)
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Posted By Linda Crossland-Clarke Hi. However, on the lelt of the web page he is undecided as he is still MIOSH! Linda
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#3 Posted : 07 October 2005 13:48:00(UTC)
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Posted By J Knight If you try chartered health and safety practitioner you get a different one. Seems that even though we don't get it 'til November we may as well start using it now... (only joking Hazel, I'll be good) John
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#4 Posted : 07 October 2005 14:27:00(UTC)
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Posted By Anne Smart Individual Chartered status will apply to IOSH members from November 16. Members meeting the CMIOSH and CFIOSH criteria will receive their certificates over the coming months. If you have any queries regarding your membership or Chartered status please contact Professional Affairs or Membership at Head Office. Anne Smart Media and Marketing Assistant
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#5 Posted : 07 October 2005 15:05:00(UTC)
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Posted By Jim Walker Anne, Yes we know. What's being done about the impatient ones? I've "googled" 4 in 10 minutes. Also what about use of IOSH logo (old or new) for commercial gain? Off at a tangent.......... roughly how many Chartered practitioners will there be, come November?
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#6 Posted : 07 October 2005 15:47:00(UTC)
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Posted By Annette Crave Jim Good point about the Logo's, this has been rasied on this forum several times and IOSH do not seem to prepared to take any action against such companies until it is pointed out to them. Surely they should be more proactive seeking out such organisations to protect the name and good standing both its membership and the institution itself. Isn't it about time IOSH stood up to such companies and started taking action????
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#7 Posted : 07 October 2005 18:14:00(UTC)
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Posted By CarolineBrookes Hi Annette Our logo is a valuable asset to the Institution and we have strict guidelines on its usage - it's also trademarked and protected under copyright law. As you rightly point out, the logo represents the name and good standing of the Institution, so it's very much worth 'guarding'. We regularly take action when organisations mis-use the logo - particularly when it is used to imply a generic or 'umbrella' association with IOSH. Clearly, we can't keep track of every leaflet, brochure, exhibition stand or website out there, which is why we welcome feedback such as your own in helping us to identify mis-use. Caroline Brookes Head of Publishing, IOSH
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#8 Posted : 07 October 2005 18:42:00(UTC)
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Posted By Merv Newman Caroline, as previously confessed, I use "MIOSH, RSP" on my business cards and Letterhead. I also possess a rubber stamp with "Institution of Occupational Health and Safety" around the outside, MIOSH, RSP, my name and number on the inside. Are you going to slap my wrist, or do you declare this to be acceptable practice ? Really would like an answer concerning official IOSH policy. (I see you use "IOSH" in your e-mail reply, but not MIOSH) Merv
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#9 Posted : 07 October 2005 19:27:00(UTC)
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Posted By Annette Crave Hi Caroline Its good to hear a positive response from IOSH in this respect and maybe others users of the forum can be encouraged to advise IOSH of such instances. As Merv has pointed out there is a lot of mis-understanding about what is and isn't allowed, maybe you could therefore consider a feature in SHP to help clarify the situation to all of the membership (and other readers/subscribers).
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#10 Posted : 07 October 2005 20:17:00(UTC)
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Posted By Lynchy Caroline Yes -like many others I would like some clear response on the use of the logo issue Lynchy
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#11 Posted : 08 October 2005 15:28:00(UTC)
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Posted By Nick Higginson It's not that difficult is it? When setting up my website, I asked all companies who I intended to link to if they minded me using their logo - some said yes, some said no (including IOSH). By the way, I also said I would be Chartered in November ;)
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#12 Posted : 09 October 2005 12:15:00(UTC)
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Posted By CarolineBrookes Hi all Thanks for all this feedback. It sounds as though we need to publicise further the guidance available on the use of our logo. A piece in Interface in SHP would be a good idea, as suggested, and I think it would also be worthwhile developing a more prominent area on the website - perhaps including a 'whistleblower' response facility! In the meantime, there's a brief document outlining the policy, which I'm happy to send to anyone on request. Caroline Brookes, Head of Publishing, IOSH
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#13 Posted : 10 October 2005 09:48:00(UTC)
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Posted By Annette Crave Nick I think the point that is being made is that there are 'far too many' organisations out there with the IOSH logo plastered all over their websites and often their company stationary and advertisements as well. These type of people do not ask IOSH for permission, they just do it, to try and give themselves enhanced credibility and status. So unfortunately, no its not as simple as that, especially when 'honest' organisations may be losing out on work because they are not even being considered by prospective clients to start with!!
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#14 Posted : 10 October 2005 11:42:00(UTC)
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Posted By Arran Linton - Smith Apparently there is another organisation in Taiwan which is also calling itself IOSH. Yes the Institute of Occupational Safety and Health rather than the Institution of Occupational Safety and Health see http://www.iosh.gov.tw/iosheng/index.htm
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#15 Posted : 10 October 2005 11:46:00(UTC)
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Posted By J Knight This appears to be a government funded organsiation (as indicated by the email addy); should IOSH sue the Taiwanese government? It is ceratinyl not an attempt to spoof IOSH as we know it, John
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#16 Posted : 10 October 2005 11:51:00(UTC)
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Posted By Philip McAleenan For those who are interested in going to the iosk.gov.tw site mentioned by Arran, note that when I tried to access it I received the following warning from McAfee, Warning: Potentially Dangerous Web Site Detected! You have been redirected to this Web page by the McAfee AntiPhishing Filter. The Web site you requested is in our list of Web sites that are potentially trying to obtain unauthorized confidential information. If you proceed to this site, you may be at risk, especially if you have clicked on this link from an e-mail. Remember: Financial institutions will never ask you to confirm personal information through the Internet. Regards, Philip
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#17 Posted : 10 October 2005 12:27:00(UTC)
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Posted By Arran Linton - Smith Philip, Thank you for the warning. As a result of this I have had the tread removed.
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#18 Posted : 10 October 2005 12:29:00(UTC)
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Posted By Arran Linton - Smith Philip, Thank you for the warning. I have now had the thread removed. Arran
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