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#1 Posted : 07 October 2005 20:32:00(UTC)
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Posted By Martin Taylor Can anybody help me in deciding a suitable interval between refresher training sessions. At present we operate a 3 year interval for internal transport operators - counterbalance and reach trucks together with tow tractors. Of course first aiders all undergo statutary retraining at 3 years. Is there any basis for deciding a suitable interval - 3 years seems common but is this based on any research or surveys? What do other companies employ as a basis. Currently we are looking at refresher training for overhead crane operations (including slinging, manual handling and DSE familiarisation. Also what about H and S induction for employees - how many companies carry out refresher training for this? thanks in advance to anybody that can help Martin Taylor
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#2 Posted : 08 October 2005 13:12:00(UTC)
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Posted By steven bentham 3 years seems to have appeared as a common standard for a lot of training. When did you last have refresher training for driving your car? (You can pass your test at 17 and drive 50 + years without refresher training!!!) The punishment for messing up in your car is much worse than the HSE, i.e. driver goes to jail, no license, big fine, no insurance again, yet update skills training is rare. On the H&S side some asbestos requirements are yearly. As to your questions on inductions, work task things tend to be done as tool box talks by supervisors. Of course you could submit to card schemes that change every year and become progressively harder with the goal posts moving!
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#3 Posted : 09 October 2005 21:36:00(UTC)
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Posted By Raymond Rapp Martin There does not appear to be any legislation or guidance in this matter. Therefore it is an interesting point. I suppose it is left to the individual employer to assess what is appropriate. Some work activities require a certificate of competence and therefore refresher training tends to be annually. Ideally, the workforce should be consulted as well. Indeed, I believe the Consultation of Employees Regs state that training should be discussed every 6 months. That does not mean to say health and safety per se, but it is a good indicator of how often it should be on the agenda. Ray
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#4 Posted : 10 October 2005 10:25:00(UTC)
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Posted By Martin Taylor thanks to Steve and Ray for your replies. Maybe others would like to share their experiences and policies on refresher training interval many thanks Martin
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#5 Posted : 10 October 2005 10:51:00(UTC)
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Posted By Mark Bywater I would hesitate to suggest that there is legislation to cover the point and it is S2c of HSWA. Although it doesn't directly give timings, it is expected that employers will determine when and how training needs to be done to "ensure sfarp the H&S at work of his employees". It's then up to you, the employer, to determine the regularity of any training. Having just come unstuck on a liability case which we couldn't defend due to a a lack of training documents on a particular task, you can bet that we have re-doubled our efforts in this area. Basically my message is - do more than less, as a desperate search for paperwork in the event of an accident or claim is not worth the headache. Cheers, Mark
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#6 Posted : 10 October 2005 16:52:00(UTC)
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Posted By Fred Pratley For things like FLT's and other such equipment, we do formal off-the-job training on the 3 year mark, and repeat general off job (1/2 day for offices, 1 day for engineering) training on a 3 to 5 year rolloing basis. Specific on job training is recorded on personnel record cards and in addition, we hold regular communication meetings (tool box variety) and supervision makes notes of all issues raised. H&S is a required topic and the supervisor's notes are valid of what you have done. Trust this helps. Fred
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#7 Posted : 10 October 2005 20:20:00(UTC)
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Posted By Clarke Kent We have annual refresher training for all employees, it consists of a 1 day training session covering specific subjects chosen by the safety committee. This year we had Manual handling and Risk Assessment as 22% of all incidents reported to us were manual handling related, and Risk Assessment is always useful. This is on top of a 2 day Health and Safety induction programme and any job specific training requirements such as PASMA for those using mobile tower scaffolding and IOSH Managing Safely for all Managers.
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#8 Posted : 11 October 2005 13:47:00(UTC)
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Posted By Martin J Morley I think that many people will have been using the First Aid training period as the basis for requalification needs in other areas. This could now be up for grabs, since: "an HSE review of the scientific and medical literature on the issue of skills and knowledge retention . . . indicated that some individuals cannot adequately perform basic life support within 2 months of first aid training and after 3 years the results are generally very poor." However, the requirement for retraining in first aid is about tasks that are rarely, if ever, performed - other training is for tasks which are probably undertaken much more regularly. Perhaps the training interval should be defined by the level of correct performance, or the frequency of incidents, or as evidenced by the regular inspections being carried out? martin
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