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#1 Posted : 12 October 2005 19:32:00(UTC)
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Posted By Charley Farley-Trelawney Would some kind person give me a link or detailed information regarding the minimum standards for office space per person and minimum natural light levels, or a calculation to work it out myself. Its been a long time since I was asked, your help would be appreciated. CFT
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#2 Posted : 12 October 2005 20:48:00(UTC)
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Posted By stevehaigh 11 cu m of space 300 - 500 luminaires
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#3 Posted : 12 October 2005 22:23:00(UTC)
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Posted By Adrian Watson Minimum natural lighting levels of 300-500 lux? I think not, there are none! HSG 38 recommends minimum average illuminance levels 0f 200 Lux. The Workplace (Health, Safety and Welfare) Regulations 1992: Regulation 8 requires every workplace to have suitable and sufficient lighting. The lighting in the workplace, should as far as is possible, be natural. Regulation 8 also states that suitable and sufficient emergency lighting needs to be provided, where people are particularly exposed to danger, in the event of failure of artificial lighting. Regards Adrian Watson
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#4 Posted : 12 October 2005 22:42:00(UTC)
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Posted By stevehaigh I did not mean to suggest there was a minimum level.The range I put down usually provides good lighting whatever the environment
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#5 Posted : 13 October 2005 06:12:00(UTC)
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Posted By Charley Farley-Trelawney Thank you, is the 11 cu m of space a precise figure?
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#6 Posted : 13 October 2005 09:11:00(UTC)
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Posted By J Knight Yes, it is a precise figure; however don't include space over 3m above the ground, and you should take the effects of furniture into account when deciding if 11 cubic metres is sufficient, though the guidance gives no clues as to how that works exept to talk about the need for unoccupied space of 11 cubic metres, this implies that small crowded rooms will need complex calculations, John
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#7 Posted : 13 October 2005 09:38:00(UTC)
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Posted By Charley Farley-Trelawney Many thanks; I now have all the information I require to make the calculations. Now where did I leave my abacus?
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#8 Posted : 13 October 2005 11:36:00(UTC)
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Posted By Robert K Lewis What are you doing with such modern inventions? we all know a wet finger is the most accurate, coupled with the position in the company of the person making any complaint. Kitchen staff are marginally above the MDs PA, but only just and these are the top two.
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#9 Posted : 13 October 2005 14:00:00(UTC)
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Posted By Mike Craven Just one quick comment about this precise figure of 11 cubic metres per person (ignoring space above 3 metres high). This is the ACOP not the regulation - the regulation requires that workers will have sufficient floor area, height and unoccupied space to allow then to have sufficient personal/working space. I make this point, because this issue was raised with me here about 30 minutes ago, the telephone enquiry being something like, "Mike, am I correct in saying that the law says that we have to allow 3 cubic metres per person, when looking at how many people we can put into a room". The problem, I can see now is that someone is going to measure the said room and calculate how many people s/he can possibly squeeze into it; little consideration will be given to room planning, making best use of available space, traffic and emergency exit routes, storage, location of equipment and machinery, etc - because "elf and safety says everyone can have 3 cubic metres, innit" Regards Mike
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#10 Posted : 13 October 2005 14:33:00(UTC)
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Posted By J Knight Hi Mike, True, it is an ACOP, not regs as such; the original query was 'legal' minimum, but ACOPs do (as you know Bob) have a special legal status, and the query wasn't about stautory requirements. There are statutory requirements around access & egress which should take care of some of your your concerns though I see & support your point about the danger of any over-literal use of standards, John PS 3 cu m would be a leetle on the tiny side, no?
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#11 Posted : 13 October 2005 17:48:00(UTC)
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Posted By Mike Craven Thanks John - that will teach me not to press the "post response" button rather than first of all selecting the "preview response" option. Although, in my defence, I did type 11 cubic metres at the start of the contribution! Hope some of our managers didn't see the 3 cubic metres reference - it might give them ideas!!! Regards Mike
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#12 Posted : 13 October 2005 18:20:00(UTC)
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Posted By Charley Farley-Trelawney And there was I licking my lips at 'double decker' working environments 3 cubic metres would have done just fine! Thanks again for all the help. CFT
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