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#1 Posted : 31 October 2005 13:10:00(UTC)
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Posted By Debbie S Can anybody give me a good source of information on the effects of Isocyanates (already looked at HSE website and got one or two bits). The reason being that a friend is having a big problem with a neighbour who is carrying out car respraying (as a business) from his garage at home on a built up estate. From the picture that is building up 6 of the neighbours in adjoining houses have been in hospital having fluid from their lungs drained (and a pet cat!!), the said neighbour, who many years ago (and prior to good RPE) was a car paint sprayer is having problems breathing, runny eyes etc (he's sensitised to the mist being created). The offending person has been asked nicely by this friend not to do this type of work, but has ignored him and is carrting on albeit after dark now. I have advised that he should go to the EHO / HSE immediately, but he wants to go armed with information to show that the effects of the paint spraying is the same as what is happening to his neighbours.
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#2 Posted : 31 October 2005 13:40:00(UTC)
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Posted By Paul Adams Your friend doesn't need all the details. This activity is governed by the local authority who licence premises to carry out this work. There are many requirements regarding storage and use, particularly regarding extraction and ventilation. A licence would never be issued for a domestic premises, including a garage or lock up assigned to a domestic dwelling. Go straight to the local EHO.
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#3 Posted : 31 October 2005 13:58:00(UTC)
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Posted By Paul Leadbetter Debbie HSE's guidance note EH16 will tell you all you need to know. Paul
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#4 Posted : 31 October 2005 16:02:00(UTC)
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Posted By TBC Yes get your local EHO involved, but also get the local council involved. You can't run a business from home for various reasons. Bet he's not paying Council Tax on a business. If the property has a mortgage on it - the building society would be interested. They don't allow you to run a business from home without special permission - as far as I know. If it's council property he'll have problems - they don't allow it. He probably won't be insured. The inland revenue would also be interested. A few phone calls would soon put paid to this kind of nuisance. Is he on the dole? The local Fire and Rescue may also be interested it sounds like a matter of time before he blows somebody up with a fume explosion (hopefully himself). I would certainly look at all angles to get it stopped.
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#5 Posted : 31 October 2005 16:18:00(UTC)
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Posted By TBC Just as an add-on regarding insurance. Let's say worst case scenario - an explosion that wrecks the garage and buildings around. Who will pick up the tab - I'll bet his household insurance won't and who will pay for the possible damage to the buildings around?
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#6 Posted : 02 November 2005 11:25:00(UTC)
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Posted By ian milne Consider these probabilities; Iso's can be absorbed and play havock with the respiratory system and nervous system where frequent exposure is allowed. They produce asmthatic symptoms (the reason why the H&SE executive recommends RPE if it is a business) and I know two 'traditional' paint sprayers who had tumours removed from their backs in the past (that certainly changed their behaviours). Iso's are also narcotic and produce a sense of 'high' where these are breathed in and produce after-effects when the person is removed from this environment (mood shifts etc) according to research years ago. The environ'mental' health and well as SEPA/EA would be very interested (if it was a complaint) due to the probabilities of dusts (sanding cataloy etc), polluted water or thinners (cleaning spray guns), release of particulate matters to the environment. There is also the disposal of wastes (I bet it has gone to the domestic routes using his home bin collection) which is possibily illegal, dependant on his agreements with the council, if any. Downside is that he hacks of his neighbours, he losses their business. Trust that this helps. Ian
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#7 Posted : 02 November 2005 11:28:00(UTC)
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Posted By ian milne PS, I would be more worried about the chance of a fire or explosion. Does it use welders or hot surfaces on combustibles or flammables i.e. petrol tanks, paper, textiles, PAINTS/THINNERS. He can always claim 'water based paints' but there is still controls required. Ian
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#8 Posted : 02 November 2005 11:33:00(UTC)
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Posted By Richard Mathews and the local fire and rescue service would not be pleased with this situation.
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