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#1 Posted : 04 November 2005 12:03:00(UTC)
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Posted By Elizabeth Lithgow On my way to the railway station this morning my husband happened to mention a cas he'd heard about on the radio. Unforunately he couldn't remember the names of the parties involved. Basically, a construction company had been carrying out work for a client and using sub-contractors. The sub-contractor had gone through some trunking and damaged cabling inside. The judgement was vicarious liability I wonder whether this could have any implications for corporate manslaughter cases?
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#2 Posted : 04 November 2005 12:19:00(UTC)
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Posted By Cr8r Hi Elizabeth Vicarious liability has existed for some time in civil law, and I may be getting my wires crossed but I didn't think it was used in criminal law, which is where you would expect to see corporate manslaughter. So the two are unrelated I think.
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#3 Posted : 04 November 2005 12:40:00(UTC)
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Posted By Davies Edward Brown the employer can be held liable for the actions of his employees causing injury, death or damage to others, providing the actions were committed in the course of employment. The liability is known as vicarious liability.
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#4 Posted : 04 November 2005 13:53:00(UTC)
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Posted By Elizabeth Lithgow So this could be relevant in cases such as the rail incideent at Tebay last year for instance? Apparently only the sub-contractor is facing charges at the moment.
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#5 Posted : 04 November 2005 14:16:00(UTC)
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Posted By Cr8r I don't know all the details about Tebay, but vicarious liability can be used in lots of instances, but in civil law, ie injured persons or relatives seeking compensation from the company responsible for an accident. This is different from being prosecuted for something, which comes under criminal law.
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#6 Posted : 04 November 2005 14:24:00(UTC)
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Posted By Robert K Lewis http://www.cre.gov.uk/le.../database_vicarious.html Try the above link and you will find that vicarious liability is used in a number of contexts including racial discrimination etc. Bob
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#7 Posted : 06 November 2005 08:46:00(UTC)
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Posted By ivorfire The radio 4 programme did cover the fact that in the past only one employer could be held for vicarious liability. However, due to the recent case the understanding has now been altered so that more than one employer could be held responsible.
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#8 Posted : 06 November 2005 09:16:00(UTC)
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#9 Posted : 07 November 2005 11:37:00(UTC)
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Posted By Patrick Guyomard For your interest http://www.bailii.org/ew.../EWCA/Civ/2005/1151.html paragraph 18 Pad
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#10 Posted : 01 December 2005 10:41:00(UTC)
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Posted By Elizabeth Lithgow I was interested to see the article on vicarious liability in December's SHP This sets thing out quite well.
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#11 Posted : 01 December 2005 11:11:00(UTC)
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Posted By ken mosley Elizabeth, The case to which I think you refer is a recent court of appeal decision in Viasystems(Tyneside)Ltd v (1)Thermal Transfer Ltd,(2)S&P Darwell, (3)CAT Metalwork services (2005) EWCA 1151. Viasystems subcontracted work to Thermal Transfer who sublet work to S&P. S&P contracted CAT to provide labour for the work. An employee of CAT, who was under the supervision of both CAT and S&P at varying times, negligently caused a flood. Because of the extensive damage Viasystems brought a claim against the three subcontractors. The court of appeal found that the long standing assumption that vicarious liability could only reside with one employer was unfounded and that in this case the vic lib resided with more than one. This case is not an issue of personal injury but one of contract works damage. I hope this helps. Regards Ken
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#12 Posted : 02 December 2005 08:15:00(UTC)
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Posted By Elizabeth Lithgow Ken, Yes, that's the case I was thinking about. I know there was no personal injurty in this instance - but I wondered if the same principles could be applied to cases where personal injury did occur?
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#13 Posted : 02 December 2005 13:44:00(UTC)
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Posted By ken mosley Elizabeth, Yes, an employer may be held civilly and criminally liable for the negligent or unlawful acts/omissions of an employee,even though the employee can be shown to have wilfully disobeyed the express instructions of his employer. Contributory negligence also has a part to play in this.If you have a problem sleeping try reading Section 1 of the Law Reform(contributory negligence) Act 1945. The case in question changes the precedence in common law on vicarious liability allowing dual liability to apply. I wouldn't get too excited yet as the House of Lords could overturn the findings of the Court of appeal and we're back to square one. Ken.
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