Posted By Bill Elliott Lance - If you mean Agenda For Change profile, you are right there is not a national banding for safety advisors. The KSF issue, whilst linked to A4C, is not part of the banding process but is more about establishing the skills and knowledge necessary to do the job that would be included in your appraisal and objective setting.

Posted By angela westwood it's a bit of a difficult one with KSF as its intent is not "supposed" to be linked to your job match or JAQ (I know I tried getting my head round that one and failed) but linked to competence and your annual appraisal with the view of getting you through the gateways and increments. I thinkg KSF profiles for jobs in general are good, I particularly like that fact that every employee who works in the NHS will have safety competencies that they will have to attain and I think that's where we come in to set the competencies. In my PCT us safety bods are being asked to help with setting the competencies for employees and managers which I find very refereshing. With regards to ourselves, we have to determine what the KSF should be for someone who is competent to do our job and the following competencies. My problem would be in if a health and safety adviser was graded highly and was a corporate member of IOSH where do they go next to attain the next increment. I'm still trying to puzzle it out. Regards Angela