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Posted By Jennifer Kelly
I'm sure that there's a simple grammer related answer to this question but I can't seem to find it. So, can anyone tell why some legislation titles have brackets around some of the words, e.g. Construction (Design & Management)Regulations.
Thanks in advance.
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Posted By Mark Talbot
Grammatically, it saves the additional words "relating only to"
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Posted By Rob Randall
If you don'r know your "grammer" from your grammar I am not really all that surprised that you don't know what the brackets are for!
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Posted By Mark Bywater
We really do have to be whiter than white when replying to a post "don'r" (?) we?
Especially when we are suggesting it is others who get the grammar wrong.
Especially when we send the reply twice.
Thanks for asking Jennifer...I too was unsure.
Too much grammar / punctuation / spelling guff on this site for my liking.
Mark
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Posted By Rob Randall
Hi Mark,
Touche! I spotted the mistake after I had pressed the submit button unfortunately, and then compounded it by accidentally sending it twice.
Although I am having a gentle tilt at Jennifer there is a serious point. In so many posts that I read the spelling is atrocious and the grammar is cringe making. We are professionals and should be able to express ourselves properly in English. I may be a bit inept at the IT but I do know how to spell.
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Posted By Brian McMillan
Here we go again! So called "professionals" nit picking and back biting between themselves about responses to posts made by those who seek help or try to assist others.
Is it any wonder that the media spend so much time extracting the liquid bodily waste from the actions taken by some of us?
If only half as much time was spent getting what we trained for right as is spent spell checking other peoples posts we might just start to turn the tables.
In the meantime it is back to installing fall arrest equipment at the top of the staircases for some I fear.
Jennifer - I too have often wondered why the subject in the title was in brackets. Then again as someone who only learned how to spell their own name at age 38 I would eh?
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Posted By Peter MacDonald
Rob
Your English is so stilted in your last post you obviously spent half an hour writing and re-writing it to make sure it was perfect. Unfortunately it isn't (but I'm not going to go into that.
It reads like it would be spoken by a dalek!
EXTERMINATE
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Posted By Robert K Lewis
Gentlemen
If ladies were not reading this one might be tempted to speak some native Anglo Saxon to you. We have finished with the grammatical squabbles in the Grammatical Posting. If you are still upset about it perhaps you need to join a society and then claim some CPD points for personal improvement - We could then dis -allow them as you clearly cannot assess yourself to have improved as you believe your command of the English language is perfect already.
On the substance of the question this has become a convention used to define more specifically the matters covered in the regulations or the area of application thus one could see
The Control Of Pollution (Oil Storage)(England) Regulations 2001
The convention is merely a shorthand to make sense in a clear but not necessarily grammatical manner:-)
Bob
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Posted By Rob Randall
OK Jennifer and all, I apologise.
My English is obviously not perfect either so I shouldn't criticise should I?
I must have been having a bad day, or is that just a lame excuse for pig headedness?
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Posted By Allan St.John Holt
I got depressed reading this thread - but a little ray of sunshine at the end, after all. Someone with the good grace to offer an apology, that's a rarity these days. Well done that person - your bad day can now officially become a good one!
Allan
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Posted By Rob Randall
Thanks Allan, you have cheered me up!
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Posted By Jennifer Kelly
Thanks Rob, I accept the apology, although I must admit that I when re-read my original posting I did cringe at myself and made a mental note to double check any future postings.
Robert - thanks for the fuller explanation of the use of brackets in regulations.
On a final note Gentlemen; do not concern yourself with the use of Anglo Saxon words in front of me, trust me I can take it, usually improve on it and, do all of this in more than one language as well!
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Posted By Robert K Lewis
And castigate us at the same time as well as playing the piano no doubt.
I hope this is the end of all the squabbles over precise language as long as the meaning is clear why worry - As I have said there are some things I may do with a quartering knife if I hear or read them but that is another story.
On the primary issue it is a shame that the legislation is a bit less clear than the titles!
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Posted By Al..
For those who do not already have it, the Google toolbar is worth installing as it has a spell checker which checks your spelling whenever you type in web forms – such as the post message page for this forum. Just go to Google and type "toolbar".
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