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#1 Posted : 17 November 2005 21:59:00(UTC)
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Posted By Richard Spencer I would like to extend congratulates all those who have gained Chartered Status in their chosen profession. May I suggest to IOSH for those outside the United Kingdom that advertisements be placed in national papers. In my particular case may I suggest the Australian? This news paper is the only one that is distributed nationally and would be an excellent means of projecting this new status. A special thankyou in my humble opinion should be given to those who made it possible and who have worked diligently in the face much emotional turmoil and 'red tape'. Bravo Zulu Richard Spencer CMIOSH
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#2 Posted : 17 November 2005 22:26:00(UTC)
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Posted By Frank Hayes Ahhh Haaa we have a Navy man eh, Bravo Zulu to you too my Friend and to all those who have made this possible. Bravo Zulu I haven't heard that for many a year. Regards Franky (Deeps) NDipM Dip2.OSH CMIOSH
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#3 Posted : 18 November 2005 10:13:00(UTC)
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Posted By lawrence baldwin Franky there's a few of us about now in the safety game that used to get up at o crack sparrow having put down for shakes from the BM, starting the morning with a nato standard before checking with the buffer to get his hands off the flight deck prior to the maily run and banyan. BZ to all of us Lawrence (woo, still sad and secured for sea)
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#4 Posted : 18 November 2005 10:21:00(UTC)
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Posted By Ron Young Special sea dutymen close up, assume NBCD state 3 condition Yankee, HOOTROTDCOTUD
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#5 Posted : 18 November 2005 10:30:00(UTC)
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Posted By Kevin Costello I preferred a Julie Andrews in the morning myself. Sounds like the grey funnel line or targets as I prefer to call them. You can take a man out of the Navy but you cant take the Navy out of the man. Kevin
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#6 Posted : 18 November 2005 11:15:00(UTC)
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Posted By Hazel Harvey I have no idea what half the postings on this thread are about not being an old sea dog myself. I have been asked to make a posting about the use of the 'new' letters though so I thought the title of this one seemed appropriate. The post-nominal letters are either CFIOSH or CMIOSH and members in these chartered categories can also use the title 'Chartered Safety and Health Practitioner' written in full on business cards etc. The order in which you use your post-nominals is laid down by protocol. It is firstly your degrees followed by any 'Chartered' designations you may hold in the order of the age of the professional body. IOSH being a fairly young body in professional terms would follow engineering Institutions for instance but would be used before something like IEMA designations as they are younger than IOSH. Ultimately if they are not absolutely correct I don't suppose it matters that much. Hazel Harvey MPhil CCol ASDC CMIOSH Chartered Safety and Health Practitioner Before you ask CCol is Chartered Colourist offered by the Society of Dyers and Colourists which was established in the mid 19th century so is a lot older than IOSH and has held a Royal Charter for most of that time with individuals being able to use the designation from the early 70s.
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#7 Posted : 18 November 2005 11:25:00(UTC)
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Posted By Hazel Harvey Sorry, I didn't preview and the title has been transposed. The full title should be on a seperate line. So: Hazel Harvey MPhil CCol ASDC CMIOSH Chartered Safety and Health Practitioner is how it should read.
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#8 Posted : 18 November 2005 11:30:00(UTC)
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Posted By Hazel Harvey Everyone, I did preview the last one and it has still transposed it. Chartered Safety and Health Practitioner is on a seperate line.
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#9 Posted : 18 November 2005 12:03:00(UTC)
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Posted By J Knight OK Hazel, we get the message ;-) John
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#10 Posted : 18 November 2005 12:05:00(UTC)
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Posted By Frank Hayes Nice one Hazel and thanks for your kind input. Have a good weekend Regards Franky
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#11 Posted : 18 November 2005 12:14:00(UTC)
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Posted By Tim I would have thought that a highly competent group of people such as Chartered Safety and Health Practitioners could work out something as simple as how to write post nominals. Are you sure you are ready for this GRAND step :-) Tim
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#12 Posted : 18 November 2005 18:33:00(UTC)
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Posted By James M Is there free wine on offer at The Grange?
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#13 Posted : 21 November 2005 11:29:00(UTC)
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Posted By Robert K Lewis There is not even a bash anywhere except at the annual dinner as was last week but that was happening anyway! What with Anne informing the world of websites that do not yet exist and a failure to have a national bash for this event one wonders where we will get to next. Bob
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#14 Posted : 21 November 2005 13:21:00(UTC)
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Posted By Andrew Böber Kevin I'm curious what the ASDC section stands for in Hazel's name - all I can think of is the Association of Separated & Divorced Catholics which is hardly something that requires a core qualification (other than perhaps being Catholic, Separated or Divorced). Nonetheless, I am v impressed that so many of us are now CMIOSH - although bewildered by the fact that the initially belt only saw 6000 of us which is relatively small number when you consider that there are some 28000 members in IOSH. Does this mean that there are a small hard-core, albeit suicidal, of us who undertook CPD?? Rev. Andrew John Robertson Böber PGCert CMIOSH
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#15 Posted : 21 November 2005 13:26:00(UTC)
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Posted By Gilly Margrave One thing I'm not very clear about. Do ex MIOSHs have to have completed a cycle of CPD to automatically become CMIOSH or merely have to have registered for the next cycle. If the latter it would seem that people who couldn't be bothered to keep up to date in the past would be getting two years grace with higher than previous status. Yet another reason for the poor old TechSPs who did bother to feel bitter. Gilly
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#16 Posted : 21 November 2005 13:45:00(UTC)
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Posted By Alan Hoskins MIOSHs had to have already completed a two year CPD cycle prior to the deadline (the date of which I forget). I did mine 'voluntarily' but I cannot see how any safety practitioner can avoid CPD - things move so quickly - and stay on top of their job. Alan
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#17 Posted : 21 November 2005 13:49:00(UTC)
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Posted By Robert K Lewis Gilly I am honestly not chasing you!:-) All MIOSH must complete their 2 year CPD cycle before attending a professional interview panel. Those not registering for CPD will ultimately become Affiliate members. Note not even Tech IOSH. Do not fret we are watching them - A friendly CPD committee member:-)
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#18 Posted : 21 November 2005 13:56:00(UTC)
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Posted By Gilly Margrave Hi Bob, Still not clear about this - does that mean that former MIOSHs who have not completed a cycle of CDP (rather than recently registered for it) will be Affliates as of now or in two year's time? Gilly
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#19 Posted : 21 November 2005 14:27:00(UTC)
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Posted By Robert K Lewis Gilly Now you have challenged the grey cells. I seem to think it will be in two years time(ish) but I am sure Hazel will chip in if I am wrong. The CPD committee has attempted to give people fair warning and there has been a rapid increase in the registrations for CPD. The final cut off date is in July 2007 as I understand it and thenceforward those with MIOSH and no CPD cycle to their name will need to start the road again at Affiliate. Bob
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#20 Posted : 21 November 2005 15:04:00(UTC)
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Posted By Hazel Harvey All those who are currently MIOSH or FIOSH and have not yet registered for CPD will have until the 30th June next year to do so. After this they may become either MIOSH (retired) or FIOSH (retired). Once a full 2 year paper-based CPD cycle has been completed and subjected to Audit if required a member will be able to transfer to CF/MIOSH. Members will not become 'Chartered' without evidence of undertaking CPD by being registered on the IOSH scheme. An interview, however, is not required for this group of members under the transitional arrangments. All F/MIOSH who have already completed at least one CPD cycle (including RSP) will already have transferred to 'Chartered' Initially this was 6000 people. The next batch of 'Chartered' will be at the end of December as the next CPD cycle completes. There are over 15,000 members who are eligible via this transitional route. All people joining IOSH now will enter the Grad IOSH category of membership and be required to undertake a period of IPD (minimum of 2 years). This IPD period will include either taking an open assessment (NVQ holders) or developing a skills based portfolio (mini NVQ type) followed by a professional peer review interview. Cognate degree holders (Environmental Health/Occupational Hygiene etc.) will be required to take all three components. Knowledge, skills and experience (competence) are all assessed before a person enters CMIOSH.
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#21 Posted : 21 November 2005 19:47:00(UTC)
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Posted By Crim Hello everyone, I am currently MIOSH and have completed the CPD 2 year programme earlier this year. I have also received communication from head office to confirm I will be Chartered this year but as yet it has not been received. Has my new status confirmation been lost in the post or have I simply been forgotton? Is there anybody looking at this Forum that can look into my plight? I would also request further information about the ASDC - if it is the Association of Separated and Divorced Catholics I qualify and could do with some more post-nominals?
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#22 Posted : 22 November 2005 15:37:00(UTC)
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Posted By Raymond Rapp Excuse me but I am a tad confused. Robert says that all those reverting to the beginning of the cycle will do so at the grade of Affiliate (paraphrasing). I thought that had disappeared and has been replaced by TechIOSH? Hazel says that those joining IOSH will do so at the grade of GradOSH and not TechIOSH. Have I missed something? Ray
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#23 Posted : 22 November 2005 19:51:00(UTC)
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Posted By Jonathan Sandler I would like to say hello to members of the senior service, but I am not going to so there. What do they know anyway, they just play about on water all day.I woke up the other morning to find that I now have a 'C' infront of my MIOSH, I was not aware that the operation to become a 'C' had happened, I would just like to say to all Tech Sp's, work hard and one day all this will be yours, as for me I am taking my 'C' and becoming an LA Enforcement Officer, health and safety only. Jonathan SandlerCMIOSH MIIRSM MRoSPA (Chartered Safety Practitioner) can we use CSP?
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#24 Posted : 22 November 2005 19:52:00(UTC)
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Posted By Jonathan Sandler Ray, Take the train, it is beeter that taking the bus!!!!!!!!!
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#25 Posted : 22 November 2005 20:09:00(UTC)
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Posted By Bill Fisher Jonathan Sorry to disappoint you, you are not a "Chartered Safety Practioner"! You are in fact a "Chartered Safety and Health Practioner" and in your case would use the letters "CMIOSH". I stand to be corrected but I believe it was not the intention to shorten to "CSHP". Regards Bill
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#26 Posted : 22 November 2005 20:16:00(UTC)
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Posted By Roland Crane Although now adjusted to my new 'C' (with a bit of a squeeze), cant help thinking that a formal presentation would have been nice, and may have raised the profile locally.
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#27 Posted : 22 November 2005 20:53:00(UTC)
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Posted By Bill Fisher Roland Formal Presentation? I know that Hazel Harvey has been trouping all over the country delivering presentations on the plans and susequent outcome. I am obviously not sure where you are based or whether you have access to a branch. That said have you looked at the on-line information - it includes FAQs; pathway/structure info; explanation of IPD etc. It's at: http://www.iosh.co.uk/in...=corecompetent.chartered If your question is not answered there let me know. Regards Bill (Moderator)
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#28 Posted : 22 November 2005 21:17:00(UTC)
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Posted By Jonathan Sandler Bill, Thanks for the advice, once again!!!! does this mean to say we are NOT safety advisors any more by Chartered Safety and Health Practitioners? Regards. Jonathan
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#29 Posted : 22 November 2005 22:07:00(UTC)
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Posted By Bill Fisher Jonathan I suppose it depends whether the finish is emulsion, gloss or satin gloss. At the end of the day I see myself as a "safe" advisor but the names are handy if you are trying to sell yourself, put a point across or more importantly make a point. I certainly don't feel the need to list the letters on many or indeed regular occassions. Which I suspect is how you see it as well. Regards Bill
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