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#1 Posted : 24 November 2005 10:34:00(UTC)
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Posted By Nina Ok, yesterday I told you of how my husband works for a very well known Supermarket, and how he's having to put coats and gloves on to keep warm because they turn the heating off! We were going through the answers I was given on here yesterday and as we were talking he asked if there was anything he could do with regards other aspects of H&S. For a start roll cages are used, company policy is that only one cage is to be dragged at a time, but this is blatantly being ignored, for example one of the ladies was dragging her one cage when another member of staff knocked into her whilst dragging 3! when she questioned him he told her to "f**k off cos i'm dragging more than you!!" the lady questioned the H&S Officer who works for the company who just shrugged her shoulders as she does the same sort of thing!! Fire exits are very often blocked by boxes, cages etc and nothing is ever done about it. What would the advice be on this little lot? I know what I'd do but would like everyones opinion. thanks
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#2 Posted : 24 November 2005 10:52:00(UTC)
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Posted By David P. Johnson I assume from your post that neither you nor your husband are Safety Practitioners, so I'ver geared my response to be as clear and simple as possible. The best course of action to take would be to raise a formal, written greivance with the Head Office of the employer. The chances are that the poor management is only local, and that if Head Office intervenes the matter will be resolved quickly. Your husband has full legal protection from victimisation from his colleagues and managers once he raises his greivance - so he should not be treated poorly for speaking up about it. If he is, there is action that you are able to take to resolve that, but that would be much later down the line. If you check the ACAS website, they have oodles of advice, and an infoline, to help you do this. http://www.acas.org.uk Make sure you notify them in your letter that if the situation does not improve, you will have no alternative but to make a Protected Disclosure to the Health and Safety Executive. Jus4t the threat of this should see an immense improvement. If however it doesn't, drop me an email, and I'd be happy to advise you on what to do next. Best of luck with this. DJ
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#3 Posted : 24 November 2005 11:22:00(UTC)
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Posted By Gilly Margrave Hi Nina, You don't mention if your husband is a member of a union. Even where there is no recognition agreement they can be a good source of advice and support. Have a look at the USDAW H&S page. http://www.usdaw.org.uk/healthandsafety/ Gilly
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#4 Posted : 24 November 2005 11:29:00(UTC)
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Posted By Nina thanks for the responses so far, yes he is a member of the union but the union rep is also the H&S rep too!!
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#5 Posted : 24 November 2005 11:32:00(UTC)
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Posted By Brian Hagyard Just a quick point, supermarkets are enforced by the local Authority not the HSE. You could try contacting you LA, who may or may not follow it up. Complainants details are still protected by Data protection, although they do have to addmit a complaint has been made (PACE). If you dont think it needs such an approach yet, does your husband know anyone else who feels the same? A group complaint may have more weight. Brian.
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#6 Posted : 24 November 2005 11:38:00(UTC)
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Posted By Malcolm Hogarth I think David has given sound advice and covered everything pretty clearly. This sounds like the same company that I put a work placement into; the placement had an accident (manual handling) but the company refused to report it under RIDDOR as "we do not report RIDDOR"!!. Needless to say I reported it (after telling them that I was going to) as part of my duty to the placement and the company had a visit from the local EHO. I wasn't very popular but I did explain that there was not only a legal duty to report but also a moral one. They no longer take placements from us - suits me fine as I would rather send people into reputable workplaces.
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#7 Posted : 24 November 2005 11:49:00(UTC)
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Posted By gham The advice which has been given so far is sound and will ideally have a positive response from the employer...... ideally! I think that there is a significant problem here within the culture of the store, injuring someone then telling the to 'eff off' is no more than bullying, they beleive they can get away with it and continue to do so because the management don't care. This sort of thing won't go away quickly If the Head office cant sort it the best thing he could do is take a couple of days holiday and send C.V.s out during this time
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#8 Posted : 24 November 2005 12:14:00(UTC)
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Posted By shaun mckeever With respect to any of your fire problems you can ring your local fire service. They will come and inspect the building and will keep you anonymous. I remember one occasion when I was an inspectiong officer. We received a call about a shop from a well known chain where they were blocking exit routes with christmas stock. A colleague of mine turned up unannounced to inspect the shop and the manager was plainly busy. He said to my colleague after barking a couple of orders to his staff "....and I haven't got time for you"! My colleague advised him that was fine but he was going to organise a prohibition notice to prevent the shop from being used by anyone with immediate effect. The obnoxious store manager suddenly found he did have time for my colleague.
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#9 Posted : 24 November 2005 20:56:00(UTC)
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Posted By Jonathan Sandler Nina, I have read most of the responses, all I can suggest is have a word with you the Local Authority EHO, enforcement division, normaly found within the Public Protection. Just say to the companys alleged H&S person are you a member of IOSH, if they are then advise them of their duty.
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