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#1 Posted : 24 November 2005 12:40:00(UTC)
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Posted By Jonathan Sandler Should there be an enforcement specialist group? if yes how could it be run, could it be run via this web site, half yearly meetings, what benifit could there be to other members outside enforcement? Your thoughts please. Regards
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#2 Posted : 24 November 2005 21:19:00(UTC)
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Posted By Iain. Taylor Johnathan , Great Idea and it will help break down the MYTHS that exsist. An open forum ? Q&A's without FLAMMING any enforcement type person of course. Always a good learning process in my view and certainly would add value to any Organisaion like IOSH. IT
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#3 Posted : 24 November 2005 21:33:00(UTC)
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Posted By Jonathan Sandler maybe one of the moderators, when they are not asleep, can comment. Bill wake up!!!!!!!
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#4 Posted : 24 November 2005 23:33:00(UTC)
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Posted By Bill Fisher Eh! Did someone call Jonathan perhaps you could post in the morning rather than afternoon, we tend to relax after lunch! But, as usual more seriously, if you want to explore the possibility of an "Enforcement Specialist Group" contact David Bloodworth ( david.bloodworth@iosh.co.uk ), he will be able to answer all your questions. For example, I understand, Specialist Groups do have web areas through which they discuss and pass information relevant to them. As for "what benefit could there be to other members outside enforcement?", the Group could run an annual open Forum to which others could attend and learn of hot topics, "myths" and legends etc. They could even compare score sheets (ok feeble joke). Now can I settle down again? Regards Bill
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#5 Posted : 25 November 2005 08:25:00(UTC)
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Posted By Jonathan Sandler Dear McBill, well your are a scotchish person. Thanks for the input, input, i'm alive. I shall send an email to DB asking for views guideance (spritial guideance, yes ok the type found in the bottle.Sorry to wake the great sleeping monitor. Regards and happy sun bathing in this warm scotish weather. Jonathan
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#6 Posted : 25 November 2005 08:30:00(UTC)
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Posted By steven bentham As a Regulator who used to be an adviser, I think this is a good idea.
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#7 Posted : 25 November 2005 08:38:00(UTC)
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Posted By Jonathan Sandler So Steve what are you now? like me confussed? Advisor or Regulator
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#8 Posted : 25 November 2005 11:45:00(UTC)
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Posted By R Joe Sounds like an interesting idea but what do you see as the prime focus of such a group? If it were for enforcement colleagues who are members of IOSH to exchage views and ideas would this create problems of sharing information any more widely? Regards RJ
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#9 Posted : 25 November 2005 13:32:00(UTC)
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Posted By George Wedgwood Most of the information for setting up a new Group (IOSH is playing the word "Specialist" down a bit to see what else emerges) is contained on the SG Webpages and yes, David Bloodworth is the SG Manager at IOSH and will be happy to discuss your requirements. We now have 14 Groups, each with their own webpages and plans who meet regularly and welcome others at their events - including non-IOSH Members. Groups are the only IOSH formally constituted bodies that can acept non-IOSH Members on their Committees so there are opportunities for good people who may not actually want to join (we would still work on them to persuade!). The 14 Groups are managed by the Groups Management Sub Committee (GMSC) and I Chair that committee, made up of the Group Chairs (yes, all 14 of them!) or their Deputies. My Committee ensure that Groups are aware of and help fulfill the IOSH Corporate Plan as well as ensure that Plans and Budgets are met. Currently, over 70% of IOSH Membership belong to Groups and there is always room for more, if properly supported. For an 'Enforcement' Group, a small number of fairly committed Members would need to come together and discuss what they would like to do and produce some objectives. This would lead to a Stage 1 Application to the GMSC, who would consider the Application and perhaps help with the next Stage before final apporoval by Council. Once approved, the Group would operate just like the others, have meetings, stage events, produce Newsletters and encourage influence with external bodies etc. A webpage would be put up and the information sharing would begin. Should any Group not perform against Plan, it could be closed down by the GMSC but so far, none have! It could be useful talking to one of our smaller Groups such as the Rural industries SG (see webpage) to learn how they manage to work with low numbers. I am always happy to correspond or talk about any aspect of Groups management so feel free! Call 07836 718908 or mail. Kind regards, George
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#10 Posted : 25 November 2005 15:15:00(UTC)
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Posted By KB Mr Sandler How are you now? Still with us then? Bet you do not know who this is? Look at the intials and you still owe me some of that spirit mentioned earlier on in the forum.
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#11 Posted : 25 November 2005 17:19:00(UTC)
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Posted By steven bentham I am a safety professional first but a regulator by profession (now); I think any forum that can bring the two closer together might help achieve better standards of safety at work. It's also interesting to see how both sides see the same issues. Interesting thread question.
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#12 Posted : 01 December 2005 15:29:00(UTC)
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Posted By David Bloodworth Sorry for my late entry into this discussion. George Wedgwood has given you a pretty comprehensive description on how new Groups are set up but what I can add is that the idea of an Enforcement Group has been suggested before but it didn't really progress beyond that initial enquiry. As George said if the idea of an Enforcement Group is to be seriously explored then we need a small band of members willing to champion an application and steer it through the application process to come forward. The application process is a two stage process so a commitment to a "steering committee" although not too arduous does need to be for several months. In case all of this sounds a bit heavy let me also mention that it is part of my role to work with those planning new Groups. So as a start - are there any volunteers willing to identify themselves through this thread?
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