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#1 Posted : 29 November 2005 08:54:00(UTC)
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Posted By Paul Patrick Gildernew Can someone tell me if they have seen a fall arrest system or similar device used for operatives working on top of large skip lorries ( approx 4 M High) ? Obviously elimination of the need to access the top of the skips is the preferred option, but at present fitting a resheeter is not deemed " cost effective", therefore I need an alternative Thanks
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#2 Posted : 29 November 2005 09:08:00(UTC)
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Posted By Paul Leadbetter Paul Surely the phrase you should be using is 'reasonably practicable' not 'cost effective'! Paul
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#3 Posted : 29 November 2005 09:42:00(UTC)
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Posted By Paul Patrick Gildernew Paul, Thanks I would use the term reasonably practicable, but the managing director used the phrase cost effective. Paul
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#4 Posted : 29 November 2005 09:59:00(UTC)
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Posted By Paul Leadbetter Paul Do you want to stick your neck out and ask him for the details of his calculation? Paul
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#5 Posted : 29 November 2005 13:19:00(UTC)
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Posted By Paul L Williams Paul, I recommend that you take a look at the guidance produced by the Conferderation of Paper Industries (CPI), which can be found on the HSE website (Link at bottom of this response). This guidance gives practical examples of sheeting and unsheeting skip waggons from the ground. Hopefully this should solve your problems. Regards Paul Williams Cut and pasts link below. http://www.hsebooks.com/...=4438%20&cookie%5Ftest=1
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#6 Posted : 29 November 2005 15:07:00(UTC)
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Posted By Peter MacDonald I have this problem on my sites and the only real solution is fitting wagons with the auto sheet. It's difficult to arrange fall protection as such as you need something to fix the FP onto and as the skip is not designed as a working platform when it's full you have no fixing point above waist height to work on. Anything you fix onto would need to be higher than the skip itself and how would you access it! In the interim we have built two small scaffolds on long duration sites whereby the wagon driver can drive in between the scafflods and access the sheet and the holding hooks on both sides of the skip and with use of a hooked pole he can sheet the wagon safely. The scaffold needs to be built by a competent person and inspected etc but its "cost effective" Cheers
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#7 Posted : 29 November 2005 18:14:00(UTC)
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Posted By ian milne Based on my experience in the waste industry (just left after 3.5 years), we manufactured a hangmans noose c/w fall arrest system that was high enough to access skips, bulkers and containers etc. The HSE recommend auto sheeters but we all know that nets get stuck and drivers have very little alternative but to climb up with a stick to free the 'snagging'. However, do you allow your employee to walk on potentially dangerous flooring (every company in the waste industry does) where they could easily impinge themselves as well as fall out of skips etc? There is a waste management section on the hSE website.
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