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Posted By Stephen Bridgehouse
Does anyone know of a training provider or someone who has an in-house course I could look at covering vehicle reversing and banksman training?
It as been identified that our refuse and recycling service need training in vehicle reversing and the use of banksman.
Whatever information you have will be much appreciated.
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Posted By Robert K Lewis
Stephen
I am afraid I reserved the right to medieval torture for those persons using the term banksman, so you are hereby sentenced to an afternoon in Buxton wearing only one coat on top of your normal attire. If you survive this I will be most surprised.
Before your punishment however I would say that many companies offer signaller courses but few actually are able to provide what I would call comprehensive training for reversing vehicles. Most seem to think it is a matter of telling the driver all is clear and letting the driver then control the movement. If you think about lifting this is actually a reversal of good signalling practice.
The army and airside workers are the best I have seen and you will see the signaller at the front telling the driver precisely what to do - the driver does not attempt to look behind. Rear watch is maintained by additional signallers informing the lead signaller at the front. You can see why good practice is not followed - it costs too much until something happens that is.
That said there are a number of ex service persons around and I trust some will respond.
Bob
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Posted By Chris Pope
Side issue : vehicles with CCTV are almost safer reversing without a banksman or signaller or competent person or any one else for that matter getting in the way.
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Posted By Deborah Burkmar
I arranged training this year for eight warehousemen, driver and transport manager on our site.
It was a half day course, firstly theory and then practice out in the yard. The company I used was called Trainsafe in Windsor. Their number is 01753 865869 and their trainers do travel.
It generally seemed to go well although our staff are now questionning me about liability issues, eg what if they have signalled to someone but an accident occurs? I am looking for advice on this.
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Posted By RP
Try Monmouthshire County Council, Raglan Training Centre: 01291 690465. They cover local authority work, including refuse operators and the like...
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Posted By Jane Watts
hi Stephen,
I think you mean 'reversing assistants'? Well, this is the 'new term' anyway!
Can you demonstrate that you definitely need an assistant? Where possible you should design out the need for an assistant. Other precautions should be taken to minimise accident, i.e.using one ways systems, where possible positioning skips so that reversing is unnecessary.
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Posted By Steve Radford
Hi Stephen,
I don't know whether you've solved your problem but I'm new to this site and hope I can be of assistance if you haven't. In the Armed Forces the banks person actually takes control and uses a number of assistants to achieve their goal. Obviously cost is not an issue and this would not be reasonably practicable in civvy street. Most companies would struggle to provide two assistants for a vehicle and they are there only to be another set of eyes for the blind spots for the vehicle driver who still has ultimate control. I do have contacts within this field of training who are competitively priced so let me know of your interested. Any further problems don't hesitate to contact me.
Steve Radford
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Posted By warderic
Jane, I would be interested to see how you would pick up a skip without reversing onto it.
Eric (Former banksperson)
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