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#1 Posted : 15 December 2005 13:15:00(UTC)
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Posted By Dhearne
Hello, i have searched for info on this and have come to no joy..

i have just bought a flat and currently the bathroom and kitchen are next to each other and only separated by 1 door.. the bathroom is well ventialted with its own windows as is the kitchen...

what are the rules and regs with regards to me living in these conditions ?? and if i decided in the future to rent out the property would i be able to if it remained like this?

it doesnt bother me as far as living goes as the rooms are farily big etc.. i actually quite like the arrangement, but i want to know if this is against rental/living or any health and safety rules.

thanks

dean
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#2 Posted : 15 December 2005 13:32:00(UTC)
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Posted By James Bridgland
This is something which is usually governed by Building Regulations. You need to speak to the Building Control Officer at your local Council offices. Remember that, if you raise the matter with them and they say that changes need to be made, then they may require you to do the work within a certain timescale.
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#3 Posted : 15 December 2005 13:50:00(UTC)
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Posted By Alan Hoskins
Hi Dean,

Yes it is in the Building Regulations.

Some years ago there had to be two doors and a vestibule between a kitchen and any room containing a WC. This is no longer a requirement in the current Regs.

Alan
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#4 Posted : 15 December 2005 14:43:00(UTC)
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Posted By Dhearne
thanks for the help... so this means it is o.k. how it currently is???
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#5 Posted : 15 December 2005 15:06:00(UTC)
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Posted By Alan Hoskins
It depends on when it was built/installed - it may not have but it does now, so Yes - and it would only ever become an issue (if it didn't) when you move...

Alan
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#6 Posted : 15 December 2005 15:15:00(UTC)
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Posted By Dhearne
ah i see, the flat was originally converted in the early eighites, there is a weird partition that looks like it may have housed a small secondary door which is now gone, so this may have been to comply with the regs for then

so the only thing i need to take into consideration is if when i come to sell, or decide to rent it out in the future, the regulations may have changed? but it is o.k. as off now...

thanks

dean
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#7 Posted : 15 December 2005 15:20:00(UTC)
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Posted By Alan Hoskins
Yes
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#8 Posted : 15 December 2005 15:22:00(UTC)
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Posted By Tony Brunskill
Dean,

Hi, first a bit of background. The Building Regulations required an Intervening Ventilated Space (IVS) as a result of miasmic theory, the idea being that disease was spread in aerosols generated during flushing of the WC etc. These have since been disproved. Depending on the age of your premises planning consent may have been in place, unnecessary or ignored. Advice is speak to an architect or local planner for your area.

Regard

tony
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#9 Posted : 15 December 2005 16:14:00(UTC)
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Posted By Dhearne
Ill contact the local council just to check, thanks for all the help everyone...

dean
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#10 Posted : 16 December 2005 19:44:00(UTC)
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Posted By Stuart Nagle
Dhearne

1) the Building Regulations are not retrospective, so if it was not a requirement previously it would not be required later, even if regulations changed, or we would always be altering our home to comply.

2) So far as I am aware there are no current requirements that require two doors and a ventilated space between a kitchen and a bathroom in a domestic premises.

3) as your bathroom has windows, it may not have ever been affected in the first place. There were and still are specific requirements for the ventilation of bathrooms without windows which require a ventilation system to be installed. Ventilation systems also have to be installed in all new kitchens.
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#11 Posted : 19 December 2005 15:47:00(UTC)
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Posted By Dhearne
Thanks for all the help, I didnt realise that about building regs, puts my mind at rest, and will make my life a lot easier!!!!
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#12 Posted : 19 December 2005 18:21:00(UTC)
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Posted By Adrian Watson
Tony,

Miasmic theory was that diseases were spread by dad smells. There is evidence that aerosols can be generated by flushing the chain and that these aerosols may contain bacteria and therebye contaminate surfaces.

Regards Adrian
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#13 Posted : 19 December 2005 18:23:00(UTC)
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Posted By Adrian Watson
Tony,

Miasmic theory was that diseases were spread by bad smells! This theory held until 1860-1900, when the microbial theory of disease displaced it.

There is evidence that aerosols can be generated by flushing the chain and that these aerosols may contain bacteria and therebye contaminate surfaces.

Regards Adrian
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