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#1 Posted : 04 January 2006 12:16:00(UTC)
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Posted By Jim O'Dwyer Hi, I'd be interested to know your opinions on the government's proposal to exclude victims of violence at work from the Criminal injuries compensation scheme. My own feeling is that, if implemented, the consequences will be mayhem! And, it will happen unless significant numbers of stakeholders object in writing by 1 March 2006, to: Alpa Panchal Victims & Confidence Unit Office for Criminal Justice Reform 1st Floor, Fry Building 2 Marsham Street London SW1P 4DF E: rebuildinglives@cjs.gsi.gov.uk T: 020 7035 8414 Best wishes, Jim O'Dwyer P.S. You can view the Green Paper consultation "Rebuilding Lives - supporting victims of crime" on this URL: www.cjsonline.gov.uk/dow...plication/pdf/Rebuilding Lives - supporting victims of crime.pdf Strangely, you won't find it listed as a "current consultation" on the Home Office web site!
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#2 Posted : 04 January 2006 12:34:00(UTC)
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Posted By Jim O'Dwyer Hi, Whereas you couldn't this morning, you can NOW access the Green Paper consultation "Rebuilding Lives - supporting victims of crime" on the Home Office web site at using this URL: http://www.homeoffice.go...y/current-consultations/ Best wishes, Jim O'Dwyer P.S. If you'd like my appraisal, I'd be happy to email it to you as a .pdf
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#3 Posted : 04 January 2006 13:03:00(UTC)
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Posted By Bill Parkinson Interesting poser Jim. Would ask how many victims of violence at work actually receive criminal injuries compensation? In my organisation the victim is likely to pursue a civil case against the employer for "failing to take reasonable steps to reduce the risk of violence". So would it make a real difference if they were excluded ? I don't know the answer. Bill Parkinson
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#4 Posted : 04 January 2006 13:39:00(UTC)
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Posted By Jim O'Dwyer The goverment's figures indicate that, on average for each of the last five years, ‘Course of Duty’ compensation payments have amounted to approximately £11.6m per year. 1,407 police officers shared £4.8m compensation per year. 642 medical workers (doctors/nurses/ancillary staff etc) shared £2.7m per year. 240 educational workers (teachers & support staff) shared £1.2m per year. 323 security officers shared £1m per year. 296 prison officers shared £0.9m per year. 58 fire-fighters shared £0.3m per year. 153 railway employees shared £0.5m per year (Info source: Rebuilding lives - supporting the victims of crime) But, then there's going to be other costs too. Aren't there? Best wishes, Jim O'Dwyer
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#5 Posted : 04 January 2006 13:41:00(UTC)
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Posted By Helen Horton I am intrigued, why do you think mayhem will ensue if people injured by violence at work don't get compensation from the Criminal Injuries Compensation Unit? Can you expalin your point at little please? Payouts are meagre and it is a bit of a lottery whether you get anything at all. In any case most people in that position will probably put in a claim against their employer on the grounds stated by another contributor.
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#6 Posted : 04 January 2006 14:11:00(UTC)
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Posted By Jim O'Dwyer How will claimants be affected? At present, the CICA scheme offers a relatively fast track to financial compensation for victims. Making an application is reasonably straightforward and currently the average time to settle a case is only 39 weeks, which is much faster than making a claim for damages in the civil courts. Making a claim for Criminal Injuries Compensation also does not require an employee to publicly "criticise" their employer's safety arrangements or to cite inappropriate decisions made by senior managers as contributory factors. Whilst compensation payments under the CICA scheme are broadly in line with the amounts awarded by the civil courts, compensation payments awarded by the civil courts tend to be larger. This is because Civil Court awards are not subject to the CICA scheme's £500,000 cap. They can take account of a greater element of lost earnings and future care. They can include exemplary damages relating to the manner in which the injury was caused or increased and they can also include aggravated (punitive) damages intended to punish the defendant. So, if the government implements the proposal to exclude victims of violence at work from the CICA scheme, claimants are likely to receive higher levels of compensation. But, they will probably have to wait longer to get it and the increased complexity of making a claim and/or fear of repercussions by their employer may dissuade many victims from making a claim at all. How will organisations be affected? Implementing the government's proposals would affect both private and public sector organisations. The exact scale and nature of the impact is not yet clear. But, it is safe to predict that if they're unable to access Criminal Injuries Compensation, employees who've suffered violence at work are going to consider claiming against their employer in the civil courts. (The casual approach to the problem of violence at work taken by the vast majority of employers leaves this route open to practically all claimants). Although, initially, many potential claimants may be put off from taking legal action against their employer (out of misplaced loyalty to or fear of reprisals from their employer) increasing numbers will go ahead, laying the ground for others to follow. Organisations in the private sector will also face rising insurance premiums (linked to the risk of adverse outcomes occurring). The public sector is exempt from the Employers Liability Compulsory Insurance requirement. So, the same leverage (i.e. of increasing premiums) won't apply to public sector senior management. But, if the government's proposal to exclude cases where employees have been assaulted at work from the CICA scheme is implemented, a new Agency will need to be established to consider and process compensation applications from public sector employees (i.e. in the form of civil actions for negligence, breach of statutory duty, breach of contract etc). If this new Agency had the authority (and capability) to fully investigate incidents and the power to allocate and apportion blame where appropriate and if responsibility for inappropriate safety standards was something always diligently tracked following incidents and, where evidence of connivance, neglect or consent exists, (career threatening, if not liberty threatening) blame was apportioned to the individuals responsible – it would probably have the same effect! The question is, what will the cost be of setting up and running the new Agency and does that represent a saving over the current CICA system or not? And, what is the likelihood of getting an effective Agency over the probability of getting another CSA instead? The predictable outcome? The predictable outcome of excluding victims of violence at work from claiming Criminal Injuries Compensation is mayhem! The cost to private sector employers of the 'transfer of responsibility' for compensating victims of violence at work plus the additional expense of meeting legal expectations in relation to protection against violence is likely to inhibit many businesses from operating in high risk (e.g. socially deprived) areas. Some private sector business communities, such as the retail, travel and alcohol industries, have been engaging with the Government in a range of (costly) voluntary partnership arrangements to prevent crime. Having to fund compensation for criminal injuries might provide a disincentive to continue such partnerships and could lead to disengagement from their partnership working. Victims of violence at work tend to be those in precarious employment, the lowest paid and the least able to access and successfully utilise the Justice system. Making it more complicated (and risky) for them to get compensation will mean that many deserving cases will not be taken up and ultimately, that means a lot of dissatisfied, discontented people - and in any society that spells trouble! All to "save" less than £2.5 million per year! There's another unsavoury proposal in the consultation too! Currently, the CICA scheme provides compensation to employees injured in the course of (crime prevention) duties when taking an exceptional risk. The government is suggesting that this be discontinued. It's not the first time the proposal has been made. It featured in the 2004 consultation too. And, after the 2004 consultation, in its Summary of Responses the Government accepted the arguments made by respondents and was not going to implement the proposal. The compelling "arguments" included: ? There are ‘grey areas’ in defining what constitutes ‘exceptional risk’, removal of this provision might simply lead to more review and appeal cases for CICA and the Criminal Injuries Compensation Appeals Panel (CICAP). ? The failure to ensure commensurate compensation through alternative means might lead police officers and others to decline to take undue risks in the course of duty. This would not be in the public interest and could lead to situations arising where the public might not be as fully protected or served as they might expect. ? Private sector employees, such as those that work in the retail sector, who face shop lifters and other criminals, may be discouraged from seeking to prevent crime and apprehend criminals. Note: 48% of successful "course of duty" claims are from Police officers and, last year, 77% of the successful police claims (and compensation paid) were in respect of injuries sustained accidentally while taking an exceptional risk. Without a replacement 'incentive' for going the 'extra yard' people are going to be less likely to put themselves at risk in the public interest. Would you feel safer knowing that? Best wishes, Jim O'Dwyer
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#7 Posted : 04 January 2006 18:22:00(UTC)
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Posted By bigwhistle They consider the whole scheme an expensive nuisance and they even can reject a claimant if they have been convicted of a motoring offence.
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#8 Posted : 05 January 2006 08:07:00(UTC)
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Posted By Stupendous Man Jim, A key statement is in the document - the Criminal Injuries Compensation Scheme was never intended to apply to people affected by violence at work. It's intended purpose is completely clear. As for the sweeping statement that all public bodies are exempt from the requirement to have EL insurance, while this is true, many do choose to have the insurance in place. Even if they didn't, any claim would still go through the normal civil procedures and the employer would be liable to pay compensation - so there wouldn't be any need for another body to oversee claims in this instance. As such, I think that this review is long overdue and will hopefully result in the scheme returning to its original aims.
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#9 Posted : 05 January 2006 12:22:00(UTC)
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Posted By John Webster When somebody is on the receiving end of an act of violence, they are the victim of a criminal act. It matters not whether they are at work, at home, in the street or down the pub. They have been injured by a criminal. The aggressor is the person responsible. It is therefore the responsibility of the aggressor to compensate the victim. The Criminal Injuries Compensation scheme was set up to provide that compensation where it is unlikely that the victim would be able to extract financial retribution from the aggressor, either because the police are unable to bring the aggressor to book, or because the aggressor would be unable to pay by anything other than imprisonment. As noted earlier, it is a relatively fast track claim process without the need to take on the adversarial court system and prove negligence. And remember, only the well off or those on low incomes truly have unrestricted access to the legal system. The rest are terrified of the initial financial outlay, the years of haggling and the costs in the event of not winning (fears which the employers insurers take full advantage of). I believe the proposed changes are bad because they move the responsibility for the act of violence from the aggressor on to the employer. Whilst it is clearly every employer's responsibility to protect their staff from acts of violence, the fault for the act of violence is still the aggressor's. Where an employee feels that the employer's protection was inadequate, the way is still open for a civil case to be brought. But what about those situations where the employer HAS fulfilled their duty of care, has controlled forseeable risk as far as reasonably practicable? As far as I can see, the poor victim, denied access to the CICS, will end up with absolutely nothing unless they can sue the perpetrator!
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#10 Posted : 05 January 2006 13:23:00(UTC)
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Posted By Andy Perchard I agree with you John, implementing the proposal is going to mean that fewer people will get compensation. As Jim said "Making it more complicated (and risky) for them to get compensation will mean that many deserving cases will not be taken up and ultimately, that means a lot of dissatisfied, discontented people - and in any society that spells trouble!" Andy Perchard
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