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#1 Posted : 10 January 2006 12:11:00(UTC)
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Posted By Peter Stones
Can anyone advise if it would be just good common sense to insert a vision panel into a door that opens into a short corridor with another door or is there some legislation / BS that supports it.
There is potential for colleagues to be struck by the opening door as they reach for the internal handle.

Thanks in anticipation.

Peter
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#2 Posted : 10 January 2006 12:49:00(UTC)
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Posted By Brian Hagyard
Peter:

Check out Regulation 18(1) Workplace (Health, Safety and Welfare) Regulations 1992, which states “Doors and gates shall be suitably constructed (including being fitted with any necessary safety devises).”
The associated paragraph of the ACOP (183) states, “ Doors and gates which swing in both directions should have a transparent panel except if they are low enough to see over. Conventionally hinged doors on main traffic routes should also be fitted with such panels.”
So while not an absolute requirement it does carry the weight of being in an ACOP and not just advice. Ultimately it will be down to your risk assessment of the situation and potential hazard/risk.

Brian.
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#3 Posted : 10 January 2006 13:05:00(UTC)
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Posted By Descarte
What are people doing, carrying chemicals, hot drinks, heavy boxes, pushing trolleys, are these fire escape routes, will they need to be gorgian wired?
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#4 Posted : 10 January 2006 22:17:00(UTC)
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Posted By John Johnston
Hey Peter,

As well as the above comments, have you thought about the DDA?

If you provide services for the public or if you have employees with physical or mental impairments, then the BS 8300:2001 Design of buildings and their approaches to meet the needs of disabled people gives guidance on vision panels.

I hope this helps.

Very best regards,

John

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#5 Posted : 11 January 2006 13:01:00(UTC)
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Posted By Nick House
What if there are 2 doors in very close proximity to each other, neither of which are fitted with vision panels?

Here, I am thinking of the toilets area on our site. There is one door leading off a main corridor, which leads into a small (approx. 1.5 metre square) dead area, where there is a second door that actually leads into the toilets.

Both doors open in the same direction, but there have been numerous near misses over the years with people exiting the toilets reaching for the door handle to pull the door towards them, only to have someone else enter at the same time, withthe resulting 'near miss' situation.

I have mentioned this to our landlord on a couple of occasions, but they are loathe to do anything about it at this time...
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#6 Posted : 12 January 2006 19:33:00(UTC)
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Posted By Crim
I've been here before re doors and vision panels? If you know a door presents a hazard that can be reduced by simply inserting a vision panel then the vision panel should be fitted. Simple Risk Assessment! As already mentioned if the door is a Fire Stop Door the vision panel must be fire rated to the same standard as the door itself, and be professionally fitted. A vision panel may also improve the situation regarding employees seeing into other areas of the building and therefore may be able to see a fire situation developing where there is no automatic fire alarm. In some cases vision panels will be "required" by fire precautions where smoke detection is limited. Toilets are obviously an exception where privacy must be considered but it may be possible to alter the doors and perhaps install sliding units instead? Failing all the above you could instruct all employees who use the doors in question to either whistle or sing loudly on approaching the door/s.


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