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Posted By Graham Clarke MIOSH, RSP, MIIRSM, MaPS
Hi Guys,
Can you guys please answer some questions for me concerning scaffolding
1. Do we legally need to use scaftags or can we use some other way to inspect
2. When do scaffolders hook on, I understood it was 4m
3. Do we now need to use metal ladders or is it still timber only
I hope someone can help
Graham
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Posted By peter gotch
Hi Graham
1. Scafftag NOT a legal requirement. Could still use Form 91 look a like.
2. 4m but need to be careful in selection of fall arrest equipment and attachment point, since could be up to 6.25m before fall is arrested - see appendix to HSG33.
3. No specific requirement as to material.
Regards, Peter
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Posted By Kevin Forbes
By saying 4m arent you totaly contradicting the new working at height regualtions?
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Posted By Mark Talbot
Yes, I don't remember any exemption cluase in the new regs for scaffolders, so the minimum height would have to be that at which they are at danger of injury etc.
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Posted By Martin Daly
Scaftags are a guide to the management of scaffolding only. They have not been updated in 40 years and are useless from the health and safety point of few.
You should get a handing over cert from the scaffolder and then.
You must inspect the scaffolding every 7 days and after bad weather etc and record the results on paper or in a computer.
The safety harness is like all PPE only to be used as a matter of last resort after all other risk control measures have been discounted.
Ladders can be made of anything as long as they comply with the relevent BS/EN standards.
Martin Daly
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Posted By Steve Sanders
Graham
1. Do we legally need to use scaftags or can we use some other way to inspect
I don’t think Scaff tag fulfils the legal requirment?
2. When do scaffolders hook on, I understood it was 4m
There is no set height, if the need to hook on the fall distiance is dictated by a number of factors. But you should be looking for systems of work that don’t require the use of lanyard, there are systems available which redue the need for saffolders to work at height.
3. Do we now need to use metal ladders or is it still timber only
The material the ladder is made from is irrelevant, but it has to be fit for purpose. But you should be looking to move away from the use of ladders.
The NASC SG4:05 is a useful guide if you need more information.
Steve
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Posted By Salus
Not taking the P--- Graham but with all those letters after your name you should already know the answers to your questions
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Posted By Bill Fisher
Graham
Picking up on Steve's response and adding to it:
1. Scafftag - If you contact Scafftag and discuss the development of an inspection record system they should be able to help, utilising their system.
2. Hooking on - Scaffolders are not exempt from the W at H Regs which is why HSE worked with the NASC to develop the Guidance SG04:05 to ensure that there is an industry approach to the issue. By the way NASC will be issueing an instructional DVD in the summer based on this Guidance.
3. Ladders - Steve, again was right in that access to scaffolds that are up for some time or have a high access rate should be moving more towards stairways.
Bill
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Posted By Tony Gladman
Unfortunately I read the negative before it was deleted.
Pity that some people have to be that way when I understood the forum to be for advice as well as banter.
Nobody knows the answer to all H&S matters and holding certain qualifications does not necessarily mean they have experience in all fields....hence the forum to seek advise.
At least some people are not afraid to seek advise...which must be a good thing.
TG
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Posted By Brett Day
I can understand partly though MaPS would indicate some construction involvment at least in a CDM capacity PS perhaps ?? Should know where to get this info from.
Maybe I'm being a little harsh.
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Posted By RP
You may use whatever recording system you want to use, Scaftag and any other commercial product is not a leagal requirement. As long as the records show what is required of CHSWR for inspections.
The handover certificate (used by members of the scaffolding contractors association) is not a record of inspection so you must inspect the scaffold prior to any person working on it
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Posted By Graham Clarke MIOSH, RSP, MIIRSM, MaPS
Hi Guys,
I would like to thank all the people that took time out to actually answer my question. No matter how experienced we feel we are, we don't know everything. If you are unsure of something; you ask. I will continue to ask if I don't know. Once again thanks everyone.
Graham
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