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Posted By Philip McAleenan
Hi Paul,
that thread title is not a complaint by any chance? ;)
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Posted By J Knight
This was in the news in November as I recall; once again Britain's hard working journalists prove their worth by bringing us the latest news as it is happening... or something,
John
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Posted By Merv Newman
For those who cant be bothered to go to the link, it is about a german firm that has put a ban on whinging. (howdeyerspelthat?)
Brilliant idea. 100% in line with behavioral safety - don't kick the bloke who is getting it wrong. Congratulate the guy who is doing it right. Eliminate the negative, increase the positive.
But, when was the last time your boss told you that you were doing ok ? (apart from the annual review)
And when was the last time you said to a contractor "I like the safe way you work" ?
Discuss
Merv
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Posted By Dave Wilson
Whats an annual review?
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Posted By Danny Swygart
Ve hav vays of making you smile.
I would be interested in what George Orwell would have to say about this.
Do you bottle up all your gripes and give yourself an ulcer whilst forcing a smile through gritted teeth or does it really work and an atmosphere of satisfaction and happiness becomes infectious?
A larger case study would be interesting.
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Posted By Danny Swygart
Before anyone says, of course I meant "I would be interested in what George Orwell would have HAD to say about this".
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Posted By David P. Johnson
It can and has worked over here fine, provided it is done properly.
Negative behaviour is counter productive and hurts the bottom line. It depresses colleagues, lowers morale, and often develops an "us against them" attitude.
Obviously the first and foremost step should be working with the 'offenders' to try and improve their behaviour and outlook, but if the situation doesn't improve or they aren't co-operative, you can take this down a disciplinary route.
The CIPD and the ILM have information on this on their websites.
DJ
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Posted By Mark Talbot
Can't help but think that if it is overdone, it would feel like being in infant school again, when everything was "wonderful", "clever", "good", ad nausium ...
I am all for positive reinforcement, but as a realist I know some things stink and should be pointed at.
People would be better off targeting the things that are whinged at, rather than the complaints. That won't happen, I know, but why sugar-coat life? It is not complaining that makes people demotivated, it is the fact that they can moan at the same things year in, year out.
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Posted By Mark Talbot
And another thing ...
Isn't this how our profession started? People moaning at being killed for profit, boys up chimneys? Imagine being told to "look at the bright side, the boy has a job!" ... "complain about horrific injuries again, and you'll get a written warning!"
Or perhaps I just need a couple of days at home? Roll on 5pm!
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Posted By Frank Hallett
"Stop whinging" often translates as:-
"Stop complaining about the fact that your perception is that the H&S in the workplace is lower than mine and I'll run my business how I wish"; or -
"Stop complaining about the lack of safety stuff and get on with it 'cos our bonus depends on this"; or -
Any similar comment that suppresses the absolute duty of all employees and employers to identify and correct "fings wot ain't rite".
To be treated with extreme caution and initially a healthy dose of cynicism until proven wrong.
Frank Hallett
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Posted By Fornhelper
If you read the article I think you'll find the key message is don't whinge just for the sake of it (whinge has got to be one of those words that sounds like what it is !!) ...be positive....if you have something to complain about suggest a way that the issue can be addressed.
Reminds me of the sign on safety managers door at a company I used to wrk for: "Don't bring a problem....bring a solution !!!"
Don't worry.....be happy !!! and have a great weekend !!!
FH
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Posted By Merv Newman
FH, (may I call you Forn ?)
The word you were looking for is "onomatopeic" (there may be another "a" in there somewhere) - sounds like it sounds.
And while I am very strong for recognition for good people and positive reinforcement I always remind training groups that the existing disciplinary procedure is here to stay.
And I give them the (true) story of the plant manager who lost his job after the third LTI of the year.
And sometimes (depends on the audience) I give them the (true) story of a sales rep who got fired. Four car accidents and refused safe driving training. "Not one of them was my fault. I'm the best driver in the company" Byeeeee.
And isn't there some grammatical rule that one should never start ones sentences by "And" ?
TGIF
And I love the "ball" thread
Merv
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