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#1 Posted : 25 January 2006 12:09:00(UTC)
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Posted By James Andrew Scott I have been asked our logistics dept about a trip where one driver is required to deliver goods to a location which involves a total driving distance of 472 miles round trip in one day. The load is bulky but not heavy. Does anyone think that this is reasonable or not? James
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#2 Posted : 25 January 2006 12:22:00(UTC)
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Posted By Paul Leadbetter James I wouldn't like to drive that far in a day ( about 9.5 hours plus stops) but more generally it depends on the vehicle and the driver, I suppose. Driving that far in a rattly old van would be a lot more tiring than doing it in a BMW! Paul
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#3 Posted : 25 January 2006 12:31:00(UTC)
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Posted By Frank Hallett Do the "Drivers Hours" legislation apply? If not - sensible risk management must be applied. Frank Hallett
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#4 Posted : 25 January 2006 12:42:00(UTC)
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Posted By Gary L It depends on the vehicle they're driving & whether they come under the EC's drivers rules. Our company have a fleet that are exempt from using tachos so we were advised that all driving should be done in accordance with the Domestic Driver's Hours Rules which does allow up to 10 hours of driving each day! (which I find worrying) You would also have to consider type of roads, rest periods, & any foreseeable hold ups (which on the M1 in Yorks are guaranteed - Grr!) Gary
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#5 Posted : 25 January 2006 14:28:00(UTC)
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Posted By James Andrew Scott Thanks everyone for your response. There is no tacho involved and the drive does not stop for lunch before setting off back because he wants to get ahead of the afternoon rush. I think this is too much to expect for adriver to do this. Thanks James
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#6 Posted : 25 January 2006 14:35:00(UTC)
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Posted By Allan Kerrigan as an ex hgv driver when the new legislation was propsed in the late 70's a limit of 500km was proposed, that equates to about 281 miles. I think that on this jouney it is too long, after all it is AT work, so a RA should be done and the findings adhered to. If the driver wants to avoid the rush, go there mid day on day one , "overnight" and return after at least 8 hours sleep, this could be in the early hours of the morning so avoiding most traffic on day two.
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#7 Posted : 25 January 2006 15:25:00(UTC)
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Posted By Descarte Then weigh up these costs, petrol costs, mileage costs, depriciation, man hours spent driving, possible stays over night so hotel expenses, subsistence etc.... = £200+ (depending on hourly rate of driver etc. against getting a courrier to deliver
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#8 Posted : 25 January 2006 15:50:00(UTC)
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Posted By Alexander Falconer Some vehicles have sleeper cabs, so no hotel expenses Just a normal "jolly" for some LOL A
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#9 Posted : 25 January 2006 16:06:00(UTC)
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Posted By Steven i too am an ex HGV driver and consider this journey too far for 1 days driving, and the fact that he does not stop for a lunch break should be a concern. I always drive for no more than 2.5 hours for any one period without a break. I am in the opinion that you would be better of financially to get a courier to do the donkey work. Steve
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#10 Posted : 25 January 2006 17:46:00(UTC)
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Posted By Merv Newman Our company rule has been, for a very long time, 600 km (400 miles) (Rest-stops every 2 hours)in a day with a maximum working day of 10 hours. (including non-driving work) Tomorrow I plan on 2hrs in the office, a 2.5 hour drive of 250 km, a 2 hour meeting and then back home. Total about 500 km and 9hrs working time. After 20 years of travelling I know I can do it comfortably, but much more and fatigue would definitely be a factor. And then, at 8pm, my wife wants to go to a dance.
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#11 Posted : 26 January 2006 22:08:00(UTC)
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Posted By Merv Newman Further to my previous posting - it was snowing. So, after two hours in the office it took me three hours to drive to the client. 2 hour meeting as planned. Then FIVE hours to drive back. Total 500 km, 300 miles. But a 12 hour day. couldn't do the rock-and-roll class tonight. Sorry Dear. Merv
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