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#1 Posted : 16 February 2006 06:52:00(UTC)
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Posted By Dave Stevenson We currently undertake a full test (via a contractor) of our emergency lighting every 6 months. Some local fire authorities have asked that we test it every month, which will involve store managers undertaking the test. To my knowledge, whilst this would be good practice (British Standard), and it is not a legal requirement. I am concerned because the lighting we have in store does not allow (at the moment) a visual check to determine if the emergency lighting is working and I do not want store managers going into electrical cupboards to perform this test. Any thoughts?
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#2 Posted : 16 February 2006 09:15:00(UTC)
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Posted By Robert K Lewis Interesting problem this, we have dealt recently with a jewellery chain with similar issues. Some of these were located in Shopping Malls and did not have the ability to undertake the tests. We assisted in the end with a variety of solutions that included negotiation with the authorities and development owners, training for staff and a 3 monthly cycle where practicable but the key is good negotiation with your authorities. We can talk offline if you wish - just email me. Bob
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#3 Posted : 16 February 2006 09:59:00(UTC)
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Posted By Phillipe This issue of testing is and has been an issue I have had on a number of occasions and it is a pain in the preverbial especially when you are a large chain of high street shops. I have never had any consistency when dealing with EHO's and Fire Officers and more so the H&S Personnel of large shopping centres....they all seem to want something different. One way of dealing with it is to have a fische key type of switch installed to test the emergency lighting that simply turns them on at the throw of a switch and locate it away from the electrical DB or cupboard? This would allow the store management or their deuputy to simply and safely test it on a weekly, monthly or annual basis depending on the standard you set or are advised to set by the enforcing authority.
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#4 Posted : 16 February 2006 10:40:00(UTC)
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Posted By Jerry Lucey Hi Dave, Your emergency lighting will have a test panel or perhaps more than one test panel if your building has been extended at some time after the initial installation. It is a very easy test and involves simply pressing a button where the emergency lighting will run for a three hour period. I have found that running it for three hours during your monthly check may not be necessary or advisable as you will need to ensure that the batteries remain charged to a suitable level at all times. Running it for three hours may come close to the capacity of the batteries and may result in the emergency lighting failing in a real emergency which might occur shortly after your test.
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#5 Posted : 16 February 2006 23:52:00(UTC)
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Posted By shaun mckeever Dave, BS5266 recommends that emergency lighting be tested regularly. It recommends that the units are tested monthly by what is known as a flick test. Basically all you need to do for the monthly test is flick the emergency light switch on, check the light is working and then swicth it off again. It is a very easy test and only takes a few seconds. The test switches are normally in an easily accessible location, often a 'fish' switch adjacent to the main switch. The six monthly test is different and requires a percentage of the emergency lights to be discharged for a period, normally an hour. Emergency lighting is considered more important than a detection system. Can you imagine being in the basement area of a large building when a fire causes a failure in the electrical supply. You may hear the fire alarm operating but if your emergency lighting has failed you will be in total darkness trying to find your way out.
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#6 Posted : 17 February 2006 17:19:00(UTC)
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Posted By Frank Hallett Hi Dave I get the impression that you are a multi-site organisation and it would help if you could confirm that. If you are, do you have a "Lead FA who, in effect, provides credibility to your FRA's? The real issue is whether the various Fire Authorities are exceeding their remit to enforce fire safety. Do you have adequate RA's for your electrical equipment and are they referenced in your Fire RA's? This is not an easy question to answer succunctly, and if you wish for a more in-depth discussion, feel able to contact me direct. Frank Hallett CFIOSH
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