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Posted By el nino
All
G'day.
Being a rather ignorant soul I have little knowledge of the ADR regs.
Question: Should I? Is it something us general safety folk should know in detail or not?
Or is this the role of the DGSA. He or she knows the regs so I don't have to?
looking forward to your kind and immediate reponses
El Nino
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Posted By Maureen Milne
I had something to do this a while a go and then they changed the regulations so I don't know how current my comments are. ADR is French and is for the transportation of hazardous material. I believe our regulation were recently 'combined' with the ADR so that we are at one with Europe. There are several regulation which cover this such as CHIP and as well as some waste management regs. There are regulations which cover the labelling, packaging as well as what can be carried together on the back of a truck or if there needs to be space between them, there are also regulations for the driver training and the information he needs to carry, if it is an international journey this info needs to be in different languages.
It can all get a bit confusing. The DGSA training is a mixture of of all of these things and I would suggest that a good ADR trained driver / transport manager would be the best person to untake this training and then leave it to him.
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Posted By Brian Rudge
El nino,
ADR are the European (although technically not the EU) standard for the carriage of dangerous goods by road. The UK's own regulations were ammended to adopt ADR as the standard.
Whether you need a DGSA really depends on the extent and nature of the materials being moved. Suggest you e-mail me directly with your specific question.
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Posted By Frank Hallett
Hi el nino - welcome back.
ADR is a common euphemism for the suite of legislation that is applied to the carriage of "dangerous goods" by road throughout the EU. Dangerous Goods are those listed in the "Orange Book".
All member states have their own interpretation of it - we have the CDGRR&TPV [or whatever it is today]. Those who are involved in the transport , loading and unloading of "dangerous goods" must have a Dangerous Goods Safety Advisor by law if the exceed the criteria to be exempted.
Therefore, if the client handles dangerous goods, they will probably require, and have, a DGSA by law but not necessarily an equally demonstrable competent person for H,S,F or E matters - bizarre eh!
The DGSA formal [EU standard] examination and consequent competence however, does not deal with the things that the mainstream safety professional is required to consider despite the depressing fact that they and their clients think that it does and I make absolutely no apology for that statement.
So, back to the original question. A handler of dangerous goods will almost certainly have need of the DGSA and also the general H,S,F&E competent professional - they may be embodied in the same person [I know of a handful of of IOSH members who are a DGSA as well as being competent H,S,F&E professionals].
Frank Hallett
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