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Posted By Kev I
Good afternoon all,
I know that Fire Certificates will not be required soon, but could someone help with this one. A place of entertainment has as a Premises Licence issued under the Licensing Act 2003, and had a similar licence before that. Does that exempt the premises from needing a fire certificate even though it meets all the requirement criteria? I can't see where any exemptions apply, yet the building has been visited several times by the local fire brigade without a mention of the certificate. I'm puzzled by this one.
Thanks in anticipation.
Kev I
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Posted By Kev I
Just to clarify my post. The owner insists that because they have applied for a Premises Licence, a copy of which is sent to the Fire Authority, they do not need a Fire Certificate. I have to admit I don't know what is included in the Premises Licence process or conditions. To my mind a fire certificate should at least be applied for because more than 20 staff work there. Any views would be much appreciated or if someone could direct me to a fire safety forum.
Kev I
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Posted By Frank Hallett
Hi Kev
From your brief description, a Fire Cert would not have been required under the Fire Precautions Act becaue it is not a "designated premises" to which the need for Fire Certification has been applied.
My advice now would be to concentrate on the very real need to ensure compliance with the FP[W] Regs now and aim for complience with the [eventually] incoming RRFSO [local versions for Scotland, NI, England & wales!] if you're in the UK.
Frank Hallett
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Posted By Derek Housley
Pubs were designated as shops under the FPA and would therefore if it met the numbers requirements 10/20 persons require a fire cert.
Fire certs are no longer being issued ( except hotels ) and will fall when the RR(FS)0 (Regulatory Reform Fire Safety Oreder Fire) comes in the Autumn 2006? when they will no longer have any legal force
In the meantime pubs are required to carry out a suitable and sufficient fire risk assessment under the Workplace Regs 1997 as amended. Pubs with Fire Certs should have also been doing this since 1999 when the regulations were amended to require premises with Fire Certs also to do risk assessments
Hope that helps.
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Posted By Kev I
Thanks for the response gentlemen. I assumed that the premise was classified as a shop as per the old OSRP Act definition. The thing that baffles me is that they have been trading (in England) for many years without a certificate and with numerous visits from the Fire Authority and apparently nothing was raised!
K
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