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#1 Posted : 18 February 2006 21:37:00(UTC)
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Posted By Jim-F We have guys working on site with these little hop-up platforms, they are 470 high, Iv stopped them working, anyone know the HSE take on these with the new height regs, nothing to stop them falling. Iv ask for a risk assessment, they are framing and sheeting ceilings
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#2 Posted : 18 February 2006 22:37:00(UTC)
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Posted By Bill Fisher Jim Can you please describe the hop-ups in more detail. Are they static, on castors, have guardrails, etc etc? Bill
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#3 Posted : 18 February 2006 23:01:00(UTC)
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Posted By Bill Baird Hi Jim On having a look at the hop up platform on the internet as I did not know what they were, I would say and I think the HSE would have the same opinion that there must be Edge protection at the very least to protect anyone from falling, I am assuming that these platforms are not very high.
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#4 Posted : 19 February 2006 09:01:00(UTC)
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Posted By Chris Pope I see them used extensively in the building trade - many carpenters have them. I always praise the people who have opted for them in preference to the two egg crates strapped together, or any chair that happens to be handy or a pair of stepladders. They encourage better working posture, are less trouble to move around, and are quite difficult to tip over. They only really pose a problem if the ground is not level or they are used to gain height on a scaffold or stairwell where they put you above the handrail. Has anyone any knowledge of someone falling off one of these hop ups? I specially like them cos' they were invented locally, down here in the westcountry.
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#5 Posted : 19 February 2006 11:48:00(UTC)
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Posted By Jim-F Guys, Im trying to establish If under the new regs they are acceptable or not. I know they get used a lot, but Im under the impression they are more for DIY than heavy duty construction. I should maybe jus phone the HSE see what they say unless anyone can put some light on it. thanks guys
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#6 Posted : 19 February 2006 13:56:00(UTC)
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Posted By David Tilsley-Curtis Jim As with all types of access equipment there will be a scenario where they are appropriate to the task. They should, as should all pieces of access equipment be accompanied by the specific risk assessment and method statement covering the operations. If the contractor can show within these documents, they have covered or managed the risks sufficiently then they should be allowed. I am however sceptical that working overhead, such as fitting a false ceiling they could be safe. The equipment should be identified within the method statement and this should also show the classification or British Standard the comply with, this will tell if they are designed for DIY or Industrial applications. Ii have also emailed you directly with some alternatives, which would meet the WAHR. Regards David
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#7 Posted : 23 February 2006 19:09:00(UTC)
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Posted By steven bentham Jim-F Have a look on the HSE's web site. What has been the enforcement pattern in PN/IN/Prosecutions for the fall risk of 470mm. If there are '0' do another search for 4 metres falls or steel erection or demolition work. This may give an indication of enforcement patterns.
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#8 Posted : 23 February 2006 19:18:00(UTC)
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Posted By CB Have been using hop ups for a couple of years now have never heard of any accicdents regarding the use of these. They give good stability, are easy to move around and give you a better working posture and a wider range of movements. Regards
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#9 Posted : 23 February 2006 20:11:00(UTC)
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Posted By Wayne Watson I am working on a large site where m and e are present as well as ceiling fixers and the most common form of hop up seems to be podium steps, these come in different height sizes and have a gated handrail so may be what you are looking for, most national hire shops stock them. Hope this helps.
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#10 Posted : 24 February 2006 18:51:00(UTC)
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Posted By Chris Pope Apparently falls causing major injury from towers are on the increase. Apart from the increase in usage HSE inspector Steve Frain told us on Thursday that failure to follow manufacturer's assembly guidlines is a major cause - he went on to show a picture of a podium erected "inside out". You can't do that with these hop ups.
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#11 Posted : 24 February 2006 22:11:00(UTC)
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Posted By Barry Cooper We have suspended ceiling contractors due in next week, I believe they use stilts to reach the height to install the ceiling. Has anyone any experience of these, and if so are they permitted under the WAH Regs. You can just touch the ceiling when installed, so the stilts will not be very high Barry
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#12 Posted : 24 February 2006 22:24:00(UTC)
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Posted By Barry Cooper Sorry Guys Did a search and found out your views Barry
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