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Posted By Stuart Henderson
Hi Guys,
'Anybody heard about "waist harnesses" please??
Full body harness no problem but I'm getting a bit concerned, need to give an answer yesterday and would be very grateful for some guidance from your /our collective experience.
Many thanks,
Stuart..
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Posted By Paul Bellis
Not waist harness but waist restraint belts -manufactured to BS EN358 to prevent a person getting to a position where they may fall -harnessess are better though
Paul
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Posted By Glenn
Hi Stuart
By waist harness you proberly mean Belt Restaint Harnesses.
These do not work the same as full body harnesses as they have no lanyard with shock absorbers, but mearly act as a means to stop wearers reaching further than a designated point, and as such may not be used as fall protection. (Scaffolders etc.)
Normaly used on flat roof areas with running rail or man-anchors, so as not to be able to reach a leading edge or void. also used by persons on some type of ladder sytems, such as working on telegrath poles for securing to a certain position, but not as fall aresst.
Glenn
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Posted By The toecap
I did the PASMA course and in a booklet they give you it states that harnesses are not to be worn whilst on a tower
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Posted By Paul Bellis
Glen
I think we posted at the same time Belts can also be used to give your 3 points of contact whilst working off a ladder for short duration work of course -if you need to work with both hands
Paul
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Posted By The toecap
It says that the anchor point must remain outisde the tower
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Posted By Derek Holt
Waist belts can only be used for restraint and work position purposes (such as on telegraph pole with pole rope/strap) as outlined by others above. They can not be used as a third point whilst working on a ladder. Should it be a fixed ladder then forgoing previous discussions about hoops (previous threads)then a full body harness and fall arrest system may be required.
You may also be making reference to an industrial sit harness which again would only comply for restraint and/or work position purposes as per EN 358. Such items are commonly used by rope access technicians. The basic definition (note I said basic) is that such items should only be used when there is no chance of a fall of any type occuring.
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Posted By Stuart Henderson
Most grateful! Thank you all for your help. The first time I've asked for assisitance (as we do)and delighted with the response. Increases the interest to helping my fellow professionals likewise.
Thanks again, you saved my bacon.
Stuart..
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Posted By Derek Holt
Paul,
EN 358:2000 is the standard for work position belts/harnesses/lanyards(EN 354). It states...'Equipment manufactured according to this standard is designed to either secure the the user 'safely' in position at the point of work (work positioning), or prevent the user from reaching a position where a fall can occur (work restraint).
Such items are designed to be attached to immovable objects to provide support to work hands free as your first reference states (note EN 359 does not exist). For example they are used by telecoms engineers on poles to give support. There was the issue of them sliding down the pole (falling) and hence 'spiked/sprung' versions were developed to bite/squeeze the pole in such an event. The maximum free movement distance allowed with these devices is 60cm. If a fall can occur then full body harness should be used with apprpriate attachment. EN 358 devices are not designed to attach to ladders, unless of course the ladders are securely attached to the structure. The problem is that if used as depicted in second reference and the ladder is not fixed to structure then person can overbalance as they are leaning back and would pivot from the focal point being their feet. This would then bring them down with the ladder. I would suggest you review this practice. If you need to discuss further drop me a line.
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