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#1 Posted : 27 March 2006 07:21:00(UTC)
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Posted By Howard More for personal interest rather than a work related enquiry. Has anyone carried out any form of vibration monitoring / surveillance for employees who ride motorcycles as part of their normal work activities. For example the emergency services, training schools couriers etc. Yes I ride a motorbike, but not as part of my work unfortunately. Regards Howard
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#2 Posted : 27 March 2006 11:06:00(UTC)
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Posted By Descarte Looked into this whilst working for the police, unfortunately left before monitoring was completed. Would presume unless you were riding acrross very uneven roads, had no suspension/dampening on front forks for 8hours every day a week then you would not be getting near the exposure limit. Our forklift guys driving around outside dont get that much 8 hours 5 days a week and I bet they are bumpier than your bike. On a seperate note my mountain bike would probably give a higher reading whilst I am out biking on the weekend, but you can bet your as that I dont spend 8hours a day 5 days a week on it, if I did I would probably be entering the tour de france. Just make sure you have some nice warm dry gloves :-)
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#3 Posted : 27 March 2006 12:59:00(UTC)
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Posted By Howard I was thinking more of the engine/ transmission vibration through the handlebars/ footpegs.
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#4 Posted : 27 March 2006 14:44:00(UTC)
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Posted By Descarte I think the RMS from such small movements in vibration would be negligable, but again also consider the amount of time per week you will be riding. If you are still in doubt contact the manufacturer
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#5 Posted : 27 March 2006 15:09:00(UTC)
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Posted By Arran Linton - Smith I have previously experienced seriously weak and numb fingers through vibration from long distance cycling, however with carbon, titanium or shock absorbing forks, gel gloves and a change in hand position, this no longer appears to be a problem.
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#6 Posted : 28 March 2006 09:42:00(UTC)
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Posted By Phil McC Howard, My own experience, particularly with modern big 4's, is that vibration is no longer the problem with M/cs that it once was. Small bikes and quads may be a different story so if you are working on a golf course ... A bigger concern for me might be my own experiences with helmets. Some of those that I have worn are unlikely to meet the previous Noise Regulation with regard to wind noise on unfaired bikes and I think a lot more might come into scope of the new regs. But you try getting dispatch riders to wear poncey ear plugs even if they are mandatory!
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#7 Posted : 28 March 2006 10:01:00(UTC)
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Posted By Linda Crossland-Clarke Hi folks Now i had a diff experience with the vibration - and no you won't be able to guess. But I'll email you direct.. Linda
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#8 Posted : 28 March 2006 11:29:00(UTC)
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Posted By Howard Thanks for the responses. Phil, I ride a horizontally opposed twin, may have to look at another straight 4. Wind noise is also a problem dispite wearing the supposedly quietest helmet & earplugs, I'm sure my tinitus is becoming worse. Linda, cant wait!! Thanks Howard
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#9 Posted : 28 March 2006 13:11:00(UTC)
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Posted By Descarte Linda was this riding a motor bike, bicycle or a washing machine?
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#10 Posted : 28 March 2006 14:42:00(UTC)
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Posted By John Lewis You lot are making up your own jokes here. It was the vibration aspect that caught my eye on this thread. Knowing the levels of vibration on a bike would give me something to compare my findings with and help me advise some of our motorcycling polishers. I've been doing research with some of our guys who do hand polishing, honestly! They have been using different gloves from thick heavy duty rigger types to thin cotton knits and Kevlar/leather mix gloves. Their experience is that thick gloves make the vibration problem worse because they have to grip the item tighter and hold it harder to the mop or linishing belt. A thinner glove, which "common sense" says will be no good provides the right balance of grip and feel so that it is comfortable to use and wear. Perhaps the same applies to bike gloves where the thicker the glove the harder the grip required and consequently the more restricted the blood flow to the fingers. Just a thought. John
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#11 Posted : 28 March 2006 14:46:00(UTC)
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Posted By Martin Gray Howard, Have you made any enquiries with the Transport Research Laboratory (TRL) or the Police Scientific Development Branch, I know one of them did some work with a rider in a wind tunnel to try and find the best types of helmets to reduce noise they may have done some research into vibration. Martin
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#12 Posted : 28 March 2006 15:16:00(UTC)
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Posted By Paul Adams Howard, The days of the old two stroke that revved like crazy are just about gone. Flat twin suggests a BMW - big bore, short stroke (ish), low revs. I personally ride a flat six (GL1800), vibration - what vibration? Super smooth, loads of torque. I also have "ISO Grips" sold by a certain after market custom company which effectively place a layer of rubber and air between the handlebar and the grip, looks very smart too. Hi revving mutli valve in-line fours may be a different story, haven't ridden one for a long time. Really though, I believe the issue is with the rider. Those who have a "death grip" on the bars get all the vibration transmitted from the engine through the frame. Bar end weights are supposed to help (for certain bikes) and dampers/risers for the bars are available which also help. The key is to have a relaxed grip on the bars and guide the bike, rather than physically heaving it round bends. So for those who ride for a living it largely comes down to riding style. I would recomend the advanced rider training from whichever source. Regardless of how sceptical the rider, it will have some positive impact on their riding style and skills. Ride Safe. Paul
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#13 Posted : 28 March 2006 19:10:00(UTC)
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Posted By Howard Thanks again people. John I have heated grips so do wear quite thin gloves - This rules out after market grips. Paul, done the IAM & ROSPA thing, so am reasonably competent on a bike. I'll discuss this with our occupational health nurse, she may have some info on it. Regards Howard
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