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#1 Posted : 27 March 2006 17:38:00(UTC)
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Posted By Descarte Sorry I could hold this one till Friday http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/4847344.stm Or for those not wanting to follow the link: Volunteers injured in A380 drill One man broke his leg and another 32 people suffered minor injuries during an emergency evacuation drill of the new A380 superjumbo in Germany. Plane owner Airbus said the exercise - a key step which the A380 must take to prove its airworthiness - was a "great success" despite the injuries. About 850 passengers and 20 crew were evacuated from the plane in 80 seconds. European and US regulators will reveal on Monday whether the drill met their safety requirements. The drill is a key milestone on the road to certifying the plane for public use - which Airbus hopes to do by the end of 2006. It has so far sold 159 A380s to 16 airlines, with the first due to go into service next year. Officials from the European Aviation Safety Agency (EASA) and the Federal Aviation Administration Agency were present at Sunday's drill, which took place in Hamburg. "That was a very great success," Gustav Humbert, Airbus' managing director, said of the exercise, despite the injuries. The drill took place in an aircraft hangar in Hamburg, the site of one the company's largest factories. "The initial impression is that the test went very well," EASA spokesman Daniel Hoeltgen said. There was huge interest in the exercise and Airbus was inundated with volunteers wanting to take part, most from the local area. This was despite the fact that none of the participants were paid and previous evacuation drills of civilian aircraft have resulted in serious injuries to volunteers. The success of the exercise will determine the number of passengers that the aircraft can legally carry. Although the A380 has room for 853 passengers, Airbus' first customers - including Singapore Airlines and Emirates - intend to carry only 650 passengers. If required, Airbus will conduct a second drill early next month. The practice drill proved a nerve-wracking exercise for those taking part as well as those watching. The passengers had 90 seconds to get out of their seats and to exit the aircraft by one of the eight exits available - the A380 has 16 exits but half of these were closed off. The drill took place in the dark and passengers had to contend with luggage, blankets, pillows and other debris strewn across the aisles. Those sitting in the upper tier of the twin-deck plane found themselves 26 feet off the ground, although emergency slides had been put in place before the exercise began. To make the drill as realistic as possible, the volunteers represented a broad-cross section of the population in terms of age and sex. About 40% of those taking part were women, while 35% had to be over the age of 50. Three life-size dolls were carried on board to represent children under two-years old. The A380 completed its maiden flight last year but Airbus had to drop plans for an evacuation drill in 2005 because of technical problems.
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#2 Posted : 27 March 2006 19:22:00(UTC)
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Posted By Helen Horton Well, considering the various options and the variety of injuries prevalent in plane crashes I'd rather evacuate and get a broken leg, than say, burn to death. The key thing is that they don't say how the passenger broke their leg do they?
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#3 Posted : 28 March 2006 08:43:00(UTC)
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Posted By Alison Melrose There was a couple of programmes over Christmas on the A380 (on Sky) which included evacuation simulations. The volunteers run down large chutes so I can only guess that someone slipped and fell as they were running down. On the programme they soaked the chute to simulate a landing in poor weather / at sea and there were a few that slipped (but managed to remain upright)- guess they didn't in this run!
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#4 Posted : 28 March 2006 09:35:00(UTC)
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Posted By Robert K Lewis It is apparently not unusual for injuries to occur in these tests. It is however the only one officially acceptable so a replacement is some way off. Bob
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#5 Posted : 28 March 2006 09:51:00(UTC)
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Posted By Merv Newman Do you see the similarities to experimenting with live animals ? (because it's the only way we can think of) I also reaad on another link (Times ?) that most volunteers were recruited from local sports/health clubs. I'm going by bus.
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#6 Posted : 28 March 2006 10:13:00(UTC)
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Posted By Paul Devlin I wonder if the volunteers sign some sort of disclaimer?? Why on earth would you put yourself in the position of perhaps having a serious injury and unpaid at that???? We live in a strange world.....
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#7 Posted : 28 March 2006 10:20:00(UTC)
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Posted By Jonathan Breeze Because of the perceived fun of sliding down a giant bouncy slide? Because you can claim to have been on the worlds largest plane? I'm sure I could think of several more reasons if you want me to.
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#8 Posted : 28 March 2006 11:30:00(UTC)
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Posted By Dave Wilson As I used to work for a 'National Airline' these tests have to be rigoursly undertaken for the Aircraft to get its Cert Of Airworthiness from the CAA etc and it is not uncommon for this to occur, it is also common when disembarking in a real life emergency, that is one of the main reasons why you are told to remove high heel, leave all bags behind etc. It is also why the 'less able' are not put near an emergency exit as the pax have to get out NOW!!!!! If you remember some of the recent fires which have occured (manchester was one)
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#9 Posted : 28 March 2006 12:12:00(UTC)
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Posted By Stuart Bower I work in an organisation where risk and realism in training are real issues, - much like this would appear to be. I would rather see a broken leg in training than a fatality in real life (although I'd rather see neither). Makes for some interesting balancing acts!!
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#10 Posted : 28 March 2006 12:17:00(UTC)
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Posted By Descarte Didnt you used to go down these on your ass? Running down a wet slippery bouncy castle slide seems a bit like asking for trouble, but hey I guess there is a reason for it. There is no denying the benefits of realistic training excersises and the inherant dangers that come with them, ask any police, fire, MOD etc safety advisor
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#11 Posted : 28 March 2006 13:23:00(UTC)
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Posted By Mark Talbot I spent a day with British Airways a couple of years ago going through cabin evacuations, simulations, etc. It's highlight was a slide down one of these chutes set at 747 height. It was great fun and the day was an eye opener. I would happily volunteer. Very few people that fly ever experience the evacuation ... those that do have less to contend with should the worst happen. Happily, we had no injuries.
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