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#1 Posted : 30 March 2006 16:28:00(UTC)
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Posted By Johnpett 7 weeks to become a member of IOSH is this a complete joke or what? Why does it take so long!!!!!!! Employ more staff
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#2 Posted : 30 March 2006 16:30:00(UTC)
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Posted By J Knight I wouldn't complain, it took me 4 years, John
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#3 Posted : 30 March 2006 17:27:00(UTC)
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Posted By Charley Farley-Trelawney John I feel certain IOSH will respond to your comments; I would hazard a guess there is a fairly meticulous process to go through to ensure your application complies with the IOSH protocol for becoming a chartered member. I am sure you will consider it has been well worth it. CFT
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#4 Posted : 30 March 2006 17:28:00(UTC)
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Posted By Descarte Think yourself lucky your eligable for membership in the first place!
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#5 Posted : 30 March 2006 17:50:00(UTC)
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Posted By Hazel Harvey Mr Pett, Please forward me details of your application so that I can investigate. Applications are normally turned round within a 2 week period. Hazel Harvey Director of Professional Affairs
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#6 Posted : 31 March 2006 10:31:00(UTC)
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Posted By Robert K Lewis Everyone with an interest in H&S is entitled to membership of IOSH, the key is at what level? John If you had a problem you wished us to discuss then we needed more information. But are you saying you have left it seven weeks with no enquiry? I really cannot help if you don't help us to know the problem. Bob
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#7 Posted : 31 March 2006 10:46:00(UTC)
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Posted By Delwynne In defence of the IOSH admin team - I have recently applied to IOSH. I thought that I would probably be offered only an affiliate membership as I am still working towards gaining appropriate qualifications. I sent off my forms 3 weeks ago, noting that IOSH state it will take 28 days to turn the application around. I recieved my offer for membership as technician yesterday. So clearly it is not a problem across the board. Perhaps it would be a good idea to follow up on Hazels offer and find out the problems surrounding your personal situation. I hope you get things sorted soon.
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#8 Posted : 31 March 2006 11:17:00(UTC)
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Posted By Eric PD Membership a joke how long for this is taken off- john, no offence but if i was you I'd try and improve my basic knowledge of english grammer before i attempted to become an IOSH member. It probably took them 7 weeks to decifer exactly what you were on about. eric
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#9 Posted : 31 March 2006 11:32:00(UTC)
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Posted By gham I'm all for blowing off a bit of steam now and again, the post was not nessasarily done in best taste but is there really any need to personally attack someone because they missed one word or in this case two letter from a word. The point was made i think we all got it regarless of the fact there is a minor error. Why even bother
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#10 Posted : 31 March 2006 12:05:00(UTC)
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Posted By Nick Harker 7 Weeks? What's the rush? In that time period you still know what you know & still hold your qualifications. It probably took several years to get to where you are now, so in the bigger picture is 7 weeks worth worrying over. Nick
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#11 Posted : 31 March 2006 12:25:00(UTC)
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Posted By Steve Cartwright I was under the impression that to ask a question on this forum you had to log in. To be able to log in you have to be a member. If you are already a member then you have already joined. I may be wrong.
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#12 Posted : 31 March 2006 12:32:00(UTC)
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Posted By Steven Steve You are wrong, i am not a member yet!! steve
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#13 Posted : 31 March 2006 12:34:00(UTC)
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Posted By gham If only joning was that easy. I think the idea is that non members can ask the learned members for advice, having said that there are plenty of us non members that are very capable of giving advice also, but that's another argument altogether
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#14 Posted : 31 March 2006 12:46:00(UTC)
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Posted By Martin Keeler Did I read in this thread that someone has achieved Tech IOSH status without finishing their level 3? Or has it been a long week!!
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#15 Posted : 31 March 2006 13:07:00(UTC)
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Posted By Hazel Harvey Martin, It has been a long week but I see what you mean! However, I have checked and the poster in question does have the correct qualifications and experience for CPD I dare say she means that she is studying further qualifications now. Incidentally the first poster hasn't contacted me yet, nor do we have an applicant of the name given. It may be that the poster passed an examination 7 weeks ago and thinks that this will automatically trigger membership, this happens on occasion. Alternatively the name used in the forum might not be that of the applicant and it could be a genuine complaint. Either way we can't do much without the required information. Hazel Harvey Director of Professional Affairs
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#16 Posted : 31 March 2006 13:08:00(UTC)
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Posted By Hazel Harvey It just shows its been a long week. For CPD in my previous posting read Tech IOSH !
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#17 Posted : 31 March 2006 14:30:00(UTC)
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Posted By EE Off on a tangent - thanks Eric for reminding me of an issue on this page... Can those who monitor / control the web-page improve the system by adding a spell-check & grammar check on our messages, pre-posting. John may have had a few grammatical mistakes on his original message. My PC states that Eric had 7 in his response regarding the errors (tut, tut, tut - people in glass houses .........)
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#18 Posted : 31 March 2006 14:35:00(UTC)
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Posted By George Wedgwood Brilliant response Eric!
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#19 Posted : 31 March 2006 15:20:00(UTC)
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Posted By Eric PD (EE - This is the problem with spell/grammer checks my friend. If you accept every change they recommend without reading the context of the text then my dear, I am afraid you have dumbed down to a level that Tony Blair would be embarrassed by. Please re- read my post and tell me where the 7 errors are.) Getting back to my original comment: anyone who asks a question ie- 'why does it take so long' and ends it with multiple exclamation marks does not deserve to be an IOSH member. Not to mention the lack of a full stop at the end of 'joke' and the lack of 'Be' and 'E' respectively at the start and end of 'for'. Come on this isn't rocket science - lets please keep our standards high in the IoOSH- Please do not dumb down. I plead.
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#20 Posted : 31 March 2006 15:36:00(UTC)
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Posted By gham 1. john should be John because it's a proper noun 2. i should be I 3. you abbreviate I'd should read I would 4. decifer is spelt decipher 5. Two spaces after a full stop only one after a comma 6. eric should be Eric 7. You did not place the quatation in quotation marks 8. 4. Grammer should be spelt grammar that just at a glance
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#21 Posted : 31 March 2006 15:36:00(UTC)
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Posted By Peter MacDonald Eric There's a capital J in John Your use of the comma in the first line is incorrect You've used an i instead of an I twice Your name should start with a capital E. You can't even spell your name!
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#22 Posted : 31 March 2006 15:36:00(UTC)
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Posted By Charley Farley-Trelawney Now look! It's Friday, tis the weekend, currant bun is a plenty, let's chill here, we all got the gist of it; anyway when you be angry somertimes ya gets ya fingers in a twazzle and yer emotive thoughts take over from the digits, jeez I wishes their waz a swell chequer on this FoRum? Right, me of ta paint me fence afore it drizzles again. (yep, on a skive) CFT
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#23 Posted : 31 March 2006 15:38:00(UTC)
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Posted By Peter MacDonald The bad grammer above is ironic. Honest
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#24 Posted : 31 March 2006 15:42:00(UTC)
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Posted By EE Eric - I did not need the PC to identify the 7 faults - now numbered for you my dear. Membership a joke how long for this is taken off- (1-J)john, no offence but if i(2-I) was you I'd try and improve my basic knowledge of (3-E)english grammer (4-grammar) before i (5-I) attempted to become an IOSH member. It probably took them 7 weeks to decifer (6-decipher - according to Collins English dictionary) exactly what you were on about. (7-E)eric Hope this helps you and does not embarrass you too much and since you seem to have made more errors than the originator - based on your own criteria, I guess that good bye seems an apt response to your most recent message - or are we all in IoOSH too dumb to comprehend your grasp of the Engligh language!!!!!
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#25 Posted : 31 March 2006 16:53:00(UTC)
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Posted By Keith Archer. Since when was it decided who should or should not be members because of their grammar? Instead of people making snide remarks on peoples grammar and punctuation ect would it not be prudent to take into account that some people may not have had the benefits of a good education. Alternatively they may have been diagnosed as dyslexic who may even with the help of spellchecker still have problems. Thought there was a rule about making personal attacks on this website Keith Archer A dyslexic MIOSH
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#26 Posted : 31 March 2006 17:44:00(UTC)
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Posted By Charley Farley-Trelawney Nice one Keith!
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#27 Posted : 31 March 2006 18:02:00(UTC)
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Posted By Linda Crossland-Clarke Hi to you all! I was actually taught in West Yorks when the government had an initiative called "ITA" (I think - I was in the primary school at the time, so it was a while ago,) and this involved at spelling phonetically. As far as I am aware it was to simplyfy the written English for ESOL people. It still messes me up now! Regards Linda
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#28 Posted : 31 March 2006 18:38:00(UTC)
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Posted By Robert (Rod) Douglas EE, I am with you on this one, nice one.... Aye Rod
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#29 Posted : 31 March 2006 18:50:00(UTC)
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Posted By David Kimmins Eric Error Number 8: Failure to use the subjunctive in an imaginative sentence. (Microsoft Grammar Checker always misses this one) 'If I were you', instead of sic, "If I was you" However Dear Eric, I do agree with all the other respondents. While I thank you for the challenge, and the smiles, it seemed inappropriate to slam the posters grammar, but hey that’s why Karma exists. I know Eric only asked us to identify 7, but I missed out his original challenge so wanted to go the extra step. I’d list 9 errors, but some may argue that ending a sentence with a preposition is now acceptable in written English. Can anyone rise to the challenge and beat 9?
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#30 Posted : 31 March 2006 18:55:00(UTC)
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Posted By Merv Newman As it is Friday, may we call a halt to this one ? I make mistakes when typing, whether spelling, grammatical or just plain finger-clumping. Normally I preview my response so as to give me a chance to "polish" my comments and correct the most obvious errors. Hey, I've got the time. But not all of us have the time, nor are we all trained up to the astonishingly fast and correct speed of Corinne, our secretary. Actually, I would doubt that many of us have had ANY keyboard training. We just pick it up as we go. If I can understand the posting (remember someone saying that if first and last characters are correct then the word will be understood ? I'm ok with that) then I will go with it. Earlier in the week someone asked about a "Rick assessment". I made a gentle joke about someone falling off a haystack. Nobody got the joke. Spoilt me day. I check my colleagues reports to clients. Corinne checks their letters. I don't check their e-mails, accepting that this is a much less formal and quick means of communicating. E-mails from clients arrive with spelling and grammatical errors. I don't complain. Linda, haven't noticed errors in YOUR e-mails. Loved the photos. Right. That's it. I'm off to cook dinner. Red onions caramelised with butter and sage, presented as a tart with melted goat's cheese on top. (Deliah's vegetarian collection. Pretty good even if you like your steaks to be still breathing) Needs a fairly tough wine. One of the lower burgendies perhaps ? (spot the deliberate mistake) A demain Merv (69.5 kg)(I've been doing some gardening)
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#31 Posted : 31 March 2006 19:01:00(UTC)
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Posted By Charley Farley-Trelawney Merv You just never fail to bring a wry smile to this overly serious world we all love so much. Watch the weight; I’ll fatten you up some when we finally do lunch! Oh, my treat by the way. Take care CFT
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#32 Posted : 31 March 2006 21:19:00(UTC)
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Posted By Martin R. Bessant This thread has been answered by Hazel Harvey who has made an offer to assist. It is not appropriate for individuals to make personal comments about the standard of English of an individual, and the thread appears to have gone off the original point. This thread has therefore been locked and can no longer accept any new postings. Martin Bessant - Lead Moderator.
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