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Posted By CC Hi all Has anyone got any ideas how to get rid of waste wood on site? Hard wood is the packaging for our materials that we ship from China and India. It is good quality but it has large nails in the ends and has been fumigated before shipping. the lengths are about 6ft. No body wants it for free in the Derbyshire area. I have phoned round a few compnies and the only options I have come up with are, buying a chipper,(the one we would need would cost abotu £150k)recycling, quoted between £500 - £600 a week, or firewood (not so happy about members of the public collecting wood from our site. (and its summer) we do have a license to burn but not in the quanitities we would need. The other suggestion is long term, getting an incinerator and heating the building with it. costly but long term probably saving. Has anyone got any practical solutions to this problem?
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Posted By Hilary Charlton We have ours recycled through Onyx (Veolia) so why don't you give them a ring and see what they can offer.
Hilary
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Posted By Sally Depending on what it has been fumigated with and whether there would be any residule hazards try contacting your local scout campsite - they often look for free sources of wood to burn.
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Posted By PST CC
With the greatest respect, maybe you could send the packing back to china to be re-used, it might be cheaper than all other options. And they would not have to chop down the rest of our rainforest.
PST
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Posted By CC Thanks very helpful
I am trying out all suggestions in the board meeting tomorrow.
Hopefully aomeone will create something that is universal and reusable instead of the wood bracing. Save the environment!!
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Posted By Charley Farley-Trelawney I just don't understand why nobody wants it??? With the advent of DIY and all and sundry trying to be adult Blue Peter activists, I am amazed.
That’s it; all I have to say for a change.
Charley off on his Harley.
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Posted By Robert K Lewis There are some real problems with waste wood as the uses are fairly limited and the major routes have been given and you have no doubt thought about them in some detail. The primary route has been to the chipboard industry but the economics of this mean that only short haul journies for disposal is actually the only sensible option if the environmental balance is to be acceptable.
I rather doubt that you have a licence to burn on an open fire - it is likely to be a LA agreement concerning white smoke - This does not mean that the EA will not enforce as the exemptions for fires as a waste disposal process exist only for agricultural and horticultural when carried out at the place of production/growth, which would be China. Clearance of land for construction comes under the same exemption in a number of circumstances but not all.
Composting is also a useful route but the number of Whinrow sites is limited and my personal knowledge of Derbyshire is that there are none locally.
I would look at some of the economics of adding a good furnace for timber etc to your heating system, supplementary to your existing arrangements. I have seen these be very successful in reducing fuel costs by up to 60% where there is a good supply of timber scrap.
Bob
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Posted By Daniel Stonehouse I have this problem with pallets, cable reels and other general timber on my site (large, with multiple production units). I can not give away my wood and i have to send my scrap wood out in either 'virgin wood' skips or as general waste to landfill. It's a crying shame but as soon as you mention either 'damaged', 'treated' or 'contaminated' no one wants to touch the stuff, and the paper mills seem to be getting MUCH more choosy over the wood they will accept recently. If anyone has any ideas for this stuff i would be very happy to hear them.
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Posted By Martin Gray You could try a local woodworking club there are many located around the country and they are always looking for a ready source of cheap material. I get mine locally from a joinery firm and use it for wood turning, any waste goes in the wood burner in the winter.
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Posted By Glyn Atkinson We are in the process of commissioning an incinerator for wood waste that has been put in by our environmental partners - Environmental Expressions.
The incinerator at this point will burn 25% of our total waste with savings of £130 per skip load, of which we have high hundreds every week.
The incinerator is waste to energy and powered hot water to our system, reducing utility service charges.
Eventually, but with large investment, it is hopefully planned to look into a CHP (combined heat and power) plant that will provide site power to services, heat the vast manufacturing buildings, and produce electricity back to the grid.
At present , we are also introducing a fuel briquette machine to take account of more of the 75% of wood waste generated.
I can give contact details of the firm and concept by e mail if anyone wishes to take this idea further. They will deal with nationwide enquiries.
Note - the machinery involved can also be bought rather than the contract company finance the installation - this deal suited us at the time.
My firm is looking for high five figure savings in the first year, and the contract company sell the produced fuel briquettes on the open market to finance their input to the waste control, so everyone wins.
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Posted By Philby' As I said on a previous thread....
I'll have it for my allotment...
have you tried the many allotment associations in your nec of the woods?
Always on the look out for timber for fencing, raised beds, edging, sheds, composting boxes etc...
Philby'
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Posted By CC I forgot to mention we have about 4 tons a week to get rid of. Thanks for the ideas everyone :)
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Posted By David Muldoon If you havent already I'd suggest you have a look at the WRAP website http://www.wrap.org.uk/. This should at least provide some contacts if not the answer. Also try asking your local council if they know of any local business recycling groups? Although the volume of wood you 'produce' is clearly an issue, you may be able to use it to your advantage as if you are spending £500 a week on removal, thats £26k a year, thus any major investment will hopefully have a shortish pay back period. You should also consider in these arguments that the cost of any waste is only going to go one way, up. HTH David
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Posted By Jeffrey Watt My colleague has just installed a log burning boiler from Austria in his home.
Takes o.5 metre length logs heats a 1500 litre buffer tank cost £6K possible grant funding from Action renewables. I would imagine a scaled up version for industrial use is available for your needs and may also attract grant funding from the Energy trust(etc.
The hidden cost is the boiler man to tend it in an industrial setting.
Jeff
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Posted By Stuart Nagle I could be wrong but I thought the following now applied under environmental legislation:
1) Any packaging imported into an EU member state has to be capable of being recycled...
2) companies exporting into EU member states have to have recyling policy in place and arrangements for packing to be recycled stated on the packaging...
3) burning of wood on premises under current environmental laws is not permitted unless the wood originated on those premises (i.e. was cut down on site)...
Stuart
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Posted By Robert K Lewis Stuart
There are wood burning boilers that meet the emission requirements and which are permitted. You are correct in that it cannot simply be placed on a fire by a commercial enterprise.
Wood is capable of being recycled and thus meets the EU requirements. Only problem then is to get it accepted at a suitable recycle point- if there is one.
Bob
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Posted By Glyn Atkinson JUST PASSING ON A MESSAGE TO ALL THOSE WHO HAVE MAILED ME WITH REGARD TO INFORMATION -
I have only commented on the application which is installed on my company site in this thread.
I have e mailed back to those who required detailed information asking if they have any objection to being passed on to the firm concerned so that their particular requirement can be given an assessment.
If as a result the enquiry e mail is not giving you what is required, then I'm sure that some of the other good suggestions may be of use.
I have passed on only bare contact details after asking for permission to do so in home e mails received last week.
There is absolutely no sales pitch inferred or intended - I only stated what equipment and methods are on my site, you would have to enquire about your own type of wood waste directly to the firm concerned, as mentioned in my first response to the thread.
If anyone just wants me to repeat the type of incinerator and briquette machine in use here, I will do so willingly, but I will not be drawn into any discount negotiations with the third party - this thread was for genuine info only.
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Posted By Merv Newman Glynn,
I am not sure that others were complaining about your posting. It did seem ok to me. My moan was about the access platforms advert. Not your response at all.
In fact I found the information you gave to be quite interesting and to the point
Merv
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Posted By John Mac Carthy Try Recycle now's website and wrap's website.
They may help
A long shot would be to look up charcoal makers, they are always looking out for free wood.
Good luck
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Posted By devlin When I phoned my local sawmill (US) to ask whether they gave away "scrap" (or waste wood), I was really surprised to find they have such a surplus of scrap wood they burn it. My husband and I were thrilled to find this resource as we heat our house fairly substantially with wood, and I also have a wood-fired oven I use in my bakery. It seems to me if more people knew this resource was available, they'd be only too happy to take advantage of it. I've since discovered every sawmill in our region will let folks come haul it away for free. Advertise.
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Posted By Eric PD You could try putting an advert on your local freecycle website. very good is freecycle, you advertise that you have something to give away , someone comes and collects it , que vardis. its here http://www.freecycle.org...?region=United%20Kingdomjoin the derbyshire section. Hope helps. 'Be green be clean, save rubbish and cubic volume of landfill capacity'.
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Posted By ddlhood Hi CC - do you really need this wood for packaging or can they substitute it for something else? Remember you are paying good money for this wood and having to pay to get rid of it.
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Posted By TBC I think Sally hit the nail on the head when she observed that the wood has been treated. This might make some recycling options null and void. Incineration may be the only answer. It's a bit of a dodgy area - passing on treated materials.
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