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#1 Posted : 25 May 2006 16:40:00(UTC)
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Posted By Martin Taylor We are considering introducing safety eyewear for forklift drivers following a number of dust in eye incidents on trucks being driven outside on our site. A number of drivers have declared concern that safety glasses will restrict their view. is there any evidence to suggest that this is a genuine problem - has anybody established effective safety eyewear for forklift drivers many thanks martin
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#2 Posted : 25 May 2006 16:43:00(UTC)
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Posted By Ken Dickson Martin, It’s a common objection, and utter rubbish. Would you restrict FLT duties to those who do not wear glasses in their everyday lives?
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#3 Posted : 25 May 2006 16:48:00(UTC)
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Posted By Merv Newman I second the "rubbish". Wrap around safety glasses give even better field-of-vision than standard prescription glasses. Let them trial a few pairs to get used to them. Objections usually fade away. Merv
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#4 Posted : 25 May 2006 17:22:00(UTC)
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Posted By sidney Martin, It may be worthwhile re-evaluating your risk assessment to identify what other control measures may be more appropriate such as doors/screens/windscreens etc fitted to the fork lift truck rather than the 'last resort' of eye protection. Obviously cost would way heavy on those controls but, they could be recommendations to be considered for future implimentation, so that when you have reduced the risk at source and you will not be solely reliant upon (or may not need) the eye protection.
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#5 Posted : 26 May 2006 13:45:00(UTC)
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Posted By garyh This can be a problem if you get the wrong specs. Sometime ago I specified "Uvex Futura" as they give very good close contact - are almost like a mini goggles, and give some protection against dust and splashes. However they (used to) have a blind spot at the side because of the hinge arrangement. FLT drivers complained of loss of peripheral vision....hence I changed the "spec" of their "specs". I would say give the drivers a choice of LEP, not a choice as to wether they wear them.........
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#6 Posted : 27 May 2006 19:10:00(UTC)
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Posted By John Murgatroyd Of course, having insisted that your flt drivers use vision ppe you may also have to provide them with ppe to their eye prescription if their vison needs correction. Unless you also insist they wear visors !
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#7 Posted : 27 May 2006 22:53:00(UTC)
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Posted By TBC How do the drivers who wear presciption specs manage? Very well. If they drive correctly and are making constant observations they will also manage.
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#8 Posted : 28 May 2006 08:13:00(UTC)
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Posted By John Murgatroyd Not the point. The drivers wearing prescription specs will also have to wear ppe specs unless their p/specs are ALSO safety specs. Or a visor. Wearing two pairs of specs at the same time is highly uncomfortable, if possible !
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#9 Posted : 28 May 2006 09:11:00(UTC)
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Posted By TBC I might be wrong, but I read it as 'the problem is the occasional bit of dust being blown up and getting in the eyes'. Normal presciption specs would protect against this. I don't see any need for these wearers to have any further protection. It's the others with no eye protection at all are open to getting dust in the eyes.
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#10 Posted : 28 May 2006 12:38:00(UTC)
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Posted By John Murgatroyd They (P/specs) don't protect against dust. I get dust in my eye all the time. In any case, most personal specs don't meet the requirements for ppe. No side protection for one thing, for another the lenses are not proof enough against shattering.
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#11 Posted : 28 May 2006 14:55:00(UTC)
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Posted By bs Just wondering, if looking at eye protection for dusty environment, what about inhalation. If it is has bad as it sounds rather than PPE is it possible to reduce the amount of dust? After all if it's getting into eyes it's getting in to machinery, which will surely have long term impacts. Just a thought obviously don't know the whole process
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#12 Posted : 30 May 2006 21:41:00(UTC)
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Posted By Martin Taylor just for clarification the work area is external and the dust is general external dust so opportunities to combat this seem limited I thank everybody for support on the primary issue of lack of evidence for problems with wearing eyeprotection - cheers Martin
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#13 Posted : 31 May 2006 09:51:00(UTC)
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Posted By John Lewis In my last place we often had problems with FLT drivers who did not want to wear glasses and would try all manner of stunts to avoid it. I introduced a mirror reflective style for chaps in the water treatment plant to reduce the glare from standing water. These were very quickly adopted by the FLT drivers and worn all the time, canteen and everything! As an unexpected bonus, our buyers were able to get them in for about 80p a pair as well so PPE costs dropped. As a previous writer said, give them a choice of stylish glasses and they will wear them and make your life a lot easier. It also might help to get a very small number of gopping "Joe 90" styles to make them realise how lucky they are to get nice ones. Another idea is to let them find out the list price by leaving the catalogue out. If they think the eye protection is expensive, they wear it. Crikey, time to do a psychology degree. By the way, it was a glass factory so the dust was particularly nasty, but we found normal glasses were ok for the risk. No need for visors or goggles. Best Regards John
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#14 Posted : 30 June 2006 14:41:00(UTC)
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Posted By mick hi i passed my instructor course in september 2005 since then i have been instructing for the company i work for, hallmark cards. i have certificates of basic training on the follow trucks, counter balance, reachtruck, narrow aisle order picker, narrow aisle lateral stacker and poet truck, as a registered instructor am i allowed to give instruction and issuse certificates of basic training on them trucks. the reason for me asking is that the new woman in charge of training as told me i can only give instruction on the truck i passed on as a instructor which was the reach, she says i have to do a instuctor course for every truck that i want to instruct on, i think she was given this information by the voss training centre. so in a nut shell what can i instruct on. thank you for your help and taking time to read my email with thanks mick
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#15 Posted : 30 June 2006 14:49:00(UTC)
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Posted By The toecap Is this woman qualified to instruct you what to do?
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#16 Posted : 30 June 2006 14:56:00(UTC)
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Posted By mick she is a new woman in charge of the training for the company, she is like a hr/personel she insists that i have to trained as a instructor on all the trucks but rtitb say otherwise, but she won,t have it
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#17 Posted : 30 June 2006 15:21:00(UTC)
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Posted By Peter Moran The wear of light eye protection (LEP) is rapidly becoming 'best practice' in many industries especially construction of late. There are some brilliant wrap-rounds available that look really cool and so encourage their wear and provide UV and glare protection in outdoor situations.
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#18 Posted : 30 June 2006 16:29:00(UTC)
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Posted By TBC I to used to be a FLT instructor to RTITB standards - the rules are that you can train on any truck 'if' you hold a cert for that truck. i.e. You have the instructor qualification and you hold a reach truck cert - you can train on them you hold a counterbalance cert - you can train on them you hold a benditruck cert - you can train on them you hold a narrow aisle truck cert - you can train on them etc. etc.
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#19 Posted : 30 June 2006 16:39:00(UTC)
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Posted By TBC I also used to have a HR woman just like yours (knew everything). No offence ladies. Your not near York by any chance?
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#20 Posted : 30 June 2006 16:53:00(UTC)
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Posted By Mike Herbert Is the dust a function of the current hot weather? Would damping down the dust help? or are you stuck in hosepipe ban territory? On many event sites where plant is used there is often a bowser that does the rounds to keep the dust down I'm sure you had thought of that tho. :-) cheers mike
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