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Posted By Dave Wilson
Just been driving down the M5 (Nightmare!!!!!!! 5 hours BRS / Plymouth)) Elderly Lady from WI was going to cook a homemade cake for a wrinklies B'day and was was told she could not by the CEO of Aged Concern as it could only be a 'shop bought' one in the 'Intersets of H&S!! as they knew what would be in it - maybe there was a file in it so the old boy could escape this idiot.
Understand the nut allergy, wheat allergy and older people being more at risk etc etc but 'Strewth mate, I am sure that at 90 years of age he would know if he was allergic to something by now!
Am I going doolally?
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Posted By Jonathan Sandler CMIOSH
this aint an elf and safety thing its food different regs, we prevent harm not cause harm.
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Posted By Dave Wilson
Missed the point matey as the CEO of Age Concern and BBC Radio 5 and the old dear who was not allowed to give a cake all 'blamed it' on Ridiculous H&S Rules, as an EHO I know its not H&S, the point was that the vast majority of people who listen to 5 Live do not know the difference, probably never heard of IOSH either, so as a Profession we are getting lambasted!!!
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Posted By Merv Newman
OK, so food cooked in an unknown kitchen, probably by a person untrained in food hygiene, offered to a person of a certain age who may be developing some sensitivities and who may share the food with others of similar age and similarly undefinded sensibilities/allergies has been refused by an organisation sensitive to the physical or medical weaknesses of their guests. Good on 'em.
The lady put eggs in the cake. How old were the eggs ? Were they from a salmonella free source ? How often did she wash her hands ? How sterile was her cooking equipment ? I could go on.
When you, or your husband, are cooking roast chicken, how often and at what stages in the cooking do you wash your hands ?
My wife and I often go to does where various people supply various parts of the menu. We are aware that we are taking our lives in our hands with some dishes. Avoid the salads and cold dishes if possible. Fill up on the cooked stuff and, I will admit, the pastries and sample the cakes. (anyone want carol's mum's recipe for lemon and walnut cake ?)
But sometimes it happens. Sunday morning runs. We can live with that. But maybe some people can't.
Good on 'em.
Merv
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Posted By Dave Wilson
Killjoy!
Is there no sense of reason now adays or are we all so wound up with the compensation culture? I can appreciate that elder / younger persons are more susceptible however has anyone asked these older people what THEY would actually like or are we going to sit around in a circle on bean bags and discuss their needs and tell them whats best for them, bet they cant even use brillo to clean their world war medals as it may affect their breathing, how much of a domineering / nanny state society are we becoming, and another thing social workers - people with no life experiences at 24 etc coming straight out of uni / FE telling these old dears what the 'psychologists' say is good for them, leave 'em alone I say!
So next time I go to my mates BBQ and get bladdered and eat some dodgy chicken etc he had better have good insurance as I am going to get him! or should I insist that he has a food hygiene certificate and does not drink his beer when cooking and make sure that his cat is locked up etc etc.
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Posted By Jack
Merv, the cake was cooked!
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Posted By Diane Thomason
All, If you look at the thread "the friday thread - still allowed?" there is a link to that story, from that page there is a link to the BBC Devon messageboard where it was being discussed quite hotly. It was also discussed on the BBC's Food messageboard. The debates may have gone cold now, but it's worth remembering that we can all join these message boards and put our points of view.
Who knows, if enough of us from IOSH bombard H&S stories with replies, they might even start to notice us!
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Posted By Malcolm Hogarth
Going off at a tangent slightly; I guess a number of you will have seen this months Practitioner - and particularly the feature at the top of page 15. Hindsight is a wonderful thing but I wonder how many people would have been up in arms prior to this event if 'elf and safety' had tried to put a stop to it?
I havn't seen this in the national press yet.
Discuss!
Malcolm
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Posted By david cairns
Merv
Would love the recipe for carol's mum's lemon and walnut cake.
Dingbat
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Posted By Robert Jackson
So you literally can't have your cake and eat it!!
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Posted By Philip Roberts
Nice one Robert
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