Posted By AMJAD AL ATA Hi all, Just a for question: Are there any world wide ongoing efforts to make a unique HS terms? AND to what extent it is important to make such unique terms? My first study of OHS was US-based (Industrail Hygiene) & the second one was UK-based (NEBOSH-Cert)and before/after them (certificates) it was the internet as a source of OHS related information. What I can say about, it is a great confusion for any one with no good OH background. examples: JSA/JHA , QRA/PRA .. etc Amjad

Posted By AMJAD AL ATA Aidan, yes, I think sharing of difinitions is a step and also there may be many ideas that may lead to the goal (if taken by legislative governmental bodies - say EU - or professional bodies). As I think, impact of such problem on OHS field & it is practitioners may be so bad. It will be worse if no one care about or even try to move a step towards fixing it. let me make a mini-test (For any mate who may read this post): 1- define accident?, Regards

Posted By Merv Newman Agree strongly. I was once caught out badly at a rospa conference at the Birmingham Exibition center. The title was "safety auditing" so I talked about internal, monthly management safety audits which, as a salaried Dupont consultant, was what I taught to our clients. Other speakers were HSE, BSC, HASTAM RoSPA and ILCI. All of whom talked about their proprietary external audit systems : 5 star, umpteen points, a diploma and so on . As third speaker, after HSE and BSC and with slides already in the projection booth, you can't change a thing ! I was at the time an external auditor against the existing Dupont SMS (this was pre HSG-65, BS8800 or even HASAS 18000) But we had no points system, nor a diploma or certificate. And we didn't call it an "audit" Just an evaluation with the consultant's report and recommendations. So I believe until this day, that some of the audience thought I was talking out of the side of my bum. And, from that conference, Jim Tye still owes me a gin and tonic. I don't suppose I'll ever collect. Merv