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Posted By Paulo Dinis
Hello !
I need help from you.
In nuicance noise in an environmental context, and using as tecnical standard "ISO 1996:1987 Avril 1987 Acoustique", i have a question.
I´m not sure if Directive 2002/49/CE of 25 june 2002, is already applied there in UK.
Is the survey conducted in the interior of the house where there is a complain ?
Give me a help here.
Thanks, Paulo Dinis
Portugal
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Posted By Bernard Grainger
Not familiar with the ISO but in the passed have had to monitor noise for the Section 61. Measurements are taken from the streets surrounding the source. Indoor measures would be taken depending on perceived levels in a property.
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Posted By Fred Pratley
Paulo,
I can't say that the 2002 directive is applied in the UK.
I can tell you from direct experience that complaints regarding nusiance noise are measured both inside and outside the complaint's house and outside in other areas where they may not have complained, but may be affected too!
In our case it was found that the night time noise levels were just about the permitted standards, but the noise was being generated at a particular frequency that made the inside the front bedroom of the nearest house buzz like a high powered electric machine.
Everywhere else was fine, and yes, we did get the problem fixed.
Trust this helps
Fred
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Posted By Paulo Dinis
Hi,
Is the survey conducted with the windows open ? I mean the house where the complaint lives in ?
If so, aren´t you measuring the buildings acoustical isolations too ?
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Posted By Paul Durkin
Hi All,
On the same topic,what legal grounds are there for objection for an annual music event/street festival can a serial complainer have. when the music is oppposite his house from 1000h to 1700h(Sat/Sun) Is it primarily the noise/music level? The event is attended by 1000s,his being the only complaint.
There is a PEL, his threat is to go to a tribunal !!!
Regards,Paul
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Posted By Dave Wilson
You are now getting into the realms of a 'nuisance' law, whether it is a private or statutory nuisance, if you have had the OK from the council / Police etc then I would assume it is not a nuisance. a one off 'noise' in itself would not be deemed a 'noise nuisance', if it was every weekend then that's a different matter. That said there must be some precedence at weekly sports events which cause noise,I do not think that 'planned' organised events could be classed as a nuisnace unless someone knows better
However what may be a nuisance to one man may not be to another, the Clapham Omnibus etc
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Posted By jackdaw
It's not necessarily the case that planned events cannot be a nuisance.
There was a successful private prosecution taken out against Alton Towers theme park, mainly because of the noise from planned firework displays, but also because of noise from the rides - screaming people, etc.
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Posted By Paulo Dinis
Sorry for my english folks.
I guess i failed to express myself in this post.
I´ve been exposed to industrial noise coming from 3 industrial unit´s for over 10 years now.
I´ve conducted several environmental acoustical in my professional activities, there for i know the standards and national legislation that applies.
After 10 years, and finally, regulation authorities are showing their faces and demanding for a study to show evidence that noise regulation is beeing folowed.
The gov. departement in charge is asking me to let them measure indoor´s, but with the WINDOWS OPEN. They don´t acept to conduct the survey with windows open.
In my professional activity i was faced to that situation often.
I can´t find such reference in the standard, so i was guessing how things are done in the UK when the situation is a litigate one.
Plus, altought there is been environmental dumping from those 3 organizations, now i´m facing a court trial acused on difamation against the company.... just found out that today.
What a burn out !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Posted By Paulo Dinis
In previous message i meant "windows closed".
Sorry
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Posted By John Thorley
Paulo,
Please find enclosed information on the relevant British standards which are refered to by the local authority where noise may be a nuisance or an issue:
BS 4142: 1997 Method for rating industrial noise affecting mixed residential and industrial areas,BS 5228-1/2:1997 Noise and vibration control on construction and open sites.
Hope this helps.
John
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