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Posted By Derrick Robinson I wonder if anyone can help me with a question I have been asked which is way outside my normal field of operations on construction sites. My wife works in a microbiology lab which has just been moved into new premises with all new furnishings and equipment. They use tall chairs to work at the benches and they need to move these frequently between different locations and get them positioned just right to use microscopes and other equipment. At the old lab these were on castors which locked when someone sat on the chair but allowed it to be moved freely at other times. In the new lab the chairs are on feet and the predominantly female staff are having to manually lug them about. Management have advised them that this is because "health and safety regulations" do not allow them to have chairs on wheels. This sounds like a red herring to me but I would like to know if any members are aware of any regulation or guidance which might be relevant. Thanks and Regards.
Derrick
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Posted By David Bramall Derrick
It sounds like a red herring to me also. If the chairs need moved frequently, then either a set of castors or very light chairs may be the answer. If, depending on what substances are being used, a risk of splashes of "nasty" stuff is possible, then the chair would have to be steady. Another option may be to have chairs at each work station so they don't need moved.
I think overall, it sounds like a cost cutting exercise; chairs on castors are probably more expensive than chairs on legs.
As far as legislation goes, I havn't come across anything that says castors are prohibited in laboratories. I think a specific risk assessment needs to be carried out to determine the safest option; i.e. moving chairs constantly (manual handling), spashes from chemicals (COSHH), etc. etc.
DrB
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Posted By John Murgatroyd Hmm. It seems to me that the continued use of this policy may need the entire laboratory staff to receive manual handling training. Then again, the chairs may be too heavy to be lifted about the lab, and the purchase of a sack-barrow (or similar) may be required.....complete with the necessary training course in correct use of same. Then again, it may be necessary to purchase a chair for each position to alleviate any possible manual handling problems. Oh, don't they make chairs with wheels on ?
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Posted By Ali I can empathise as I used to be a Microbiologist many years ago. Although, there may not be any specific piece of legislation it is probably the risk assessment process that is determining this cause of action. After all, I used to handle Cat A pathogens and the last thing I wanted was the chair / stool to move without warning ! Think of the possible consequences and ,yes, our chairs / stools had no wheels or castors.
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Posted By Merv Newman Me too. I did three years of bacteriology. Nothing special ; rabies, typhoid, diptheria, smallpox, tetanus, pasturela pestis, whooping cough and so on. (oh. and a few clostridia) Standard laboratory stools and never enough of 'em. And I certainly would not have liked having my seating slipping away from me as I bent forward to do the colony count.
I've just gone and weighed a dining room chair : 5.5 kg (12.1 lb) and a wooden stool from the greenhouse : 3.5 kg (7.7 lb) (and no, I am not going to weigh my office swivel chair)
OK. wooden stools are no longer acceptable in any chemical/bacteriological/ionising radiation type environment. But lightweight metal/plastic seating can be easily decontaminated. Or is cheap enough to (correctly) discard.
But no wheels, please.
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Posted By DYNAMO Me also. Although the most dangerous bacteria I met at work walked in with me.
Now histopathology, there was an interesting two months in a lab. Held a brain. Helped disect a leg looking for carcinomas. Gross disection of a fibroid cyst as big as a grapefruit. Played so much poker. Back when work experience meant something.
Derrick
We had some cheap stools that were dead light,easily dragged about with one hand, no wheels. And in other labs there were stools suitable for Jim'l'Fixit in their complexity, weight and solidity, again no wheels but a nuisance to move.
I have never seen the kick stool variety that your wife describes where the wheels lock when you sit down. Sounds too well thought out to be anything other than Scandanavian in origin.
Anyway I would concur with the guys, sans wheels is the way to be in the lab on vinyl floors ( I doubt there in a carpeted lab unless your wife works for Axminster R&D but I will qualify the flooring any how)
My sister works for an evil tobacco multinational, they have the best of stuff in their labs I'll give her a call and see what she says.
Kind regards
Jeff
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Posted By Peter MacDonald In my old days building cleanrooms and the like I remember a code of practice for the construction of labs which meant that all the surfaces had to be able to be cleaned and not harbour unwanted organisims. It may be that the reason for no wheels is a contamination issue rather than a H&S issue.
Maybe not though?
Pete
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Posted By Blaise I still work in a lab, and the benching is usually higher than a standard office desk, as such a higher chair/stool is required. If you put wheels on a such a stool it becomes unstable due to the height, so as such lab chairs tend to be of the variety without wheels.
We found a supplier that provided a similar product to a office swivel chair but on a higher unwheeled base, the covering was a spill resistant PVC/leatherette type material rather than fabric.
We still use a wheeled chair at write up desk but have had to make staff aware that the do wheel away easily on a vinyl floor, and to take care when sitting down and standing up from such a chair.
Blaise
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Posted By Darren J Fraser Hi Derrick
What happened to the old chairs and the corresponding risk assessment??????? Reason for asking is quite simple - if they are a problem now they must have been a problem then, unless the flooring is different etc. Sounds like a cost cutting exercise, using the usual excuse to carry it out.
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