Posted By The toecap The employer. In this case the subby's people

Posted By MAK The principal contractor should have included in his Construction phase plan the measures to co-ordinate and enforce first aid and RIDDOR arrangments and procedures, and to investigate accidents and incidents. Contractually the client, should have ensured that any such incidents also be reported to them and the Planning Supervisor.

Posted By The toecap AS there is some difference of opinion, who cares so long a somebody does it.

Posted By Peter MacDonald Paul Can you clarify the description of "site operator" in relation to the difference between Principal Contractor and Client. Thanks Peter

Posted By Sean Nuttall Just as an addage, We recently had a situation where we had been sub-contracted by a PC who was working for a major client. We contacted an agency to supply 1 x self employed tradesman to make up our labour force. This tradesman was then involved in an accident that resulted in an OTD reportable. So who was to inform RIDDOR ??? Client didn't want to know PC didn't want to know. Now the first two fell under what I consider those people in charge of the site (no trans of responsibility doc in place). Now I didn't want to do it because I didn't think we classed ourselves as in charge of the site. So rang up the HSE help line and they couldn't help but suggested I contact Caerphilly. Now bless her cotton socks but the girl in Wales kept telling me that it was the person who pays the injured parties wages....... Not happy with this response as it didn't tie up with RIDDOR I rang again to seek clarity (hey everyone can have a bad day) but no the answer was the same. So who pays the guys wages ?? His wages arrive with him via the composite company The composite company is paid by the agency The agency was paid by us We were paid by the PC The PC was paid by the Client Minefield and a useless RIDDOR Guide