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Posted By Jason911
A while ago my M.D came up to me and asked me as H&S manager, how as a company we faired against others in terms of health & safety including our accident record.
Well how the blank are you supposed to answer that? I mean its not as if companies publish that sort of information is it, and the HSE site you could spend a week comparing all their prosecution statistics and still be none the wiser.
Anyway, there was a long pause and I finally mumbled 'pretty good.......yes pretty good I think' and proceeded to back up my cutting statement with some rubbish about recently published prosecutions pertaining to our peers.
Anyone else been asked that sort of question in the boardroom and not acted like David Brent?
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Posted By Pat Hannaway
Hi,
there is (or used to be) a free site where you can compare your H&S performance. The link was
www.businesslink.gov.uk.
Basically you answered a number of Health and Safety Questions (similar to a brief audit) online and get a report showing your performance and a separate set of stats showing how other similar businesses are performing.
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Posted By David MacFarlane
Jason,
I was asked the same question around six months ago during a board meeting. I agree with you that it is not an easy question to answer. I too am a H&S Manager, my response was that benchmarks are only good if the information is dead on accurate. I know for a fact that there are a host of Company's that fail to report all accidents. There are Company's out there that publish there AFR's usually on the net, however I am sceptical about using them.
David M.
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Posted By Jeffrey Watt
Jason
Lost Time accidents per 100,000 hours worked is a pretty typical measure.
If you can work a million hours with no LTA's your pretty hot stuff especially if in a riskier industry.
It's not the be all and end all of safety measures but it is a start and many companies use it.
Kind regards
Jeff
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Posted By Brian Hagyard
Have you tried – www.chaspi.info-exchange.com?
Below is copied from their website.
CHaSPI is completed by organisations with more than 250 employees in the UK. It is sponsored by the UK's Health and Safety Executive (HSE). Click for more information on ChaSPI's scope, aims, approach and users. For organisations with fewer than 250 employees see the Health and Safety Performance Indicator for SMEs.
Brian.
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Posted By Anthony Slinger
If your Director is interested in benchmarking, try looking at http://www.hse.gov.uk/pubns/indg301.pdf. This HSE publications gives you some good info for those interested in applying benchmarking to health and safety. You could ask on this forum if there are any similar companies like yours who would be keen on joining in! Benchmarking is not so much about comparing, but as an exercise in learning from each "partner", identifying your own and others strengths and weaknesses to continually improve not only H&S but other business areas. I do know some of the electricity generating companies get together and share h&S info.
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Posted By Charley Farley-Trelawney
In terms of benchmarking is it really that important if you have a zero tolerance and a zero record for incidents/DO/ accidents etc? I am a senior Director within the company that I enjoy working with and for my sins I look after H&S. We have a zero rating, no accidents/incidents etc etc, why would I be interested in what others achieve or not as the case may be?
Whilst I fully appreciate that stats are important, if you are pleased and have achieved your target zone then what exactly does it mean if another company does not?
Just thinking out loud.
CFT
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Posted By Jason911
Thats an interesting point CFT, given your role within your company.
Trouble is unless like you, a director is actually responsible for H&S, they tend to spend their energy elsewhere. Don't get me wrong I am not saying my employer does not put energy into it, I am just saying that others on the board do not understand the finer details of it and give it their full attention, until things go wrong.
So in an effort to disguise this they ask questions such as this, of people like me because they have to be heard to say something. Yes I fully agree with you that it does not really mean much if you are confident in your own H&S procedures. However for directors who are usually concerned with sales and profit and the questions they put to the people responsible for those areas, this is the type of thinking you can expect as an H&S manager.
So my advice to anyone out there in a similar position to me would be to be prepared and have your answer ready, unlike me.
Jay
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Posted By Dave Wilson
Because charley bad H&S performance costs dosh! If you are good at it then there is no problem but how do you know you are good at it. Dont rely on accident stats as you may have a zero tolerance but that may be because no one reports any accidents as the senior director might give em stick!
Food for thought?
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