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Posted By AlB
I have a problem. New process been installed for cutting and shaping stone. A lot of saws and gauging heads. Also a lot of dust. My employer is adamant that the dust is "water vapour". I need to give information that shows otherwise. So I am looking for a hand held dust montioring equipment that will give indicative readings of dust in the workplace. Will need to know that mg/m3 and preferably particle size. I don't need to know the compsition of the dust, only density and size. I haven't got the time or budget to get a consultant in (which will also result in a delay in getting information back).
Does anyone know of any equipmnent that fits the bill? Where can I get hold of them? I've seen a couple through my searches on the internet, but hopefully someone will have informaiton on a good one.
Thanks.
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Posted By Robert Leonard
Have recently searched for such kit. I found the simplest kit is the Dusttrak this measures only inhalable levels in the air in mg/m3. Simply read off the result. Doesn't give you particle size though.
I found the cheapest to be Shawcity (apologies i don't know if im allowed to mention names) at £175 for a week. PS i don't work for them. I think BSRIA did it for about the same price. Have a look at their website.
If you want particle size I found the best piece of kit is something called a handilaz or the P-trak. It measures at 5 different particle sizes and you should get one for about £250. Cheapest i found was from the BSRIA website.
Obviously you will probably end up paying £30 ish delivery.
Regards
Rob.
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Posted By AlB
Robert,
Thanks for the lead. Great site. Might end up costing me a fortune though as I've seen a number of interesting items of equipment on this site!
Cheers.
AlB
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Posted By Stuart McPhaden
I have used one of these in the past and it operated on a similar basis to a laser particle counter (only with clever algorithms for reporting in mg/m3). The presence of water particles changed my result and reported a dramatically increased concentration compared with a desiccated filter. Have you considered any legionella risk, if as management say, it’s just water?
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Posted By Adrian Watson
The instrument you propose to use will not give you the answer you need as the presence of a mist will interfer with the readings. The best method is to measure on a GFA filter and condition it to dry the filter out. If you weigh it pre and post conditioning, after taking your measurements, you will be able to calculate how much is dust and how much is water.
Regards Adrian Watson
Registered Occupational hygienist
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Posted By AlB
Yes, legionella has been considered. Is due to be tested.
Good point about mist interfering with the readings. I will phone some manufacturers and get their input I think. Will update you on any findings.
AlB
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Posted By Adrian Watson
Dear AIB,
Don't test, treat; ensure any stored water is kept clean and chlorinated to 5-8 ppm. This will ensure that there are no food sources available; chlorinating the water will destroy any ameobaes present and thereby control the growth of legionella.
Regards Adrian Watson
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Posted By Stuart McPhaden
I was refering to undertaking a Legionella risk assessment that may show chemical control as necessary. Random testing does not show anything of note, also consider other waterborne nasties.
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Posted By AlB
Thanks Adrian.
Just for information, the water is continuously circulated 24/7 and treated with flocculent. The water is used to cool saw blades whilst sawing, and to dampen dust at source (supposedly!!!). The saw will dissipate a certain amount of the water in the form of a fine mist. However, the design of the process is flawed and there is a shortage of water (I know, I know!!!!!) and therefore there is escape of dust as well.
I need to show that the thick cloud we have over the heads of our operatives is dust and not mist (We all know it's dust, but there's reluctance to admit that and I need to prove it).
Fun and games.
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Posted By Adam Hammerton
How about a really, really low tech approach? (No laughing please!)
Take a clean, off the roll bin liner, grab a sample of the air, tie the bag, let the particulates/mist settle, out and open up the bag and see what you've got. Sounds daft but I had to do a similar thing to convince a manager that we needed to get some proper readings on flour dust levels.
Worth a try and even if it gains nothing you'll have only lost a 5p bin liner (which I suppose could always be reused) rather than a couple of hundred quid on kit that may be of no use.
Adam
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Posted By Stuart McPhaden
I have used A3 paper located nearby to show dust from wet cutting in the past
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Posted By Adrian Watson
I suggest that you carry out proper air monitoring as per Reg 10 of COSHH 2002; moniting appears to be required here to evaluate the health risk and to design proper controls. If you don't do it here you're in danger of a prohibition notice!
Regards Adrian
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Posted By Stuart McPhaden
I agree with adrian but if you have to demonstrate the need to managment some of the above may help.
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Posted By Jeffrey Watt
Do you get a rainbow when you shine a powerful torch through it?
No water present no rainbow.
Mr Heath Robinson.
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Posted By AlB
Adrian, we do monitor dust and do it regularly. However, the results of the last monitoring was below WEL. There were a number of reasons for this though, including some machinery not running on the day (conveniently) and different atmospheric circumstances. We need to be able to assess the situation as the need arises.
Safety vs Production conundrum comes to light again. But now the workforce have threatened a walkout, the bosses have had a bit of a fright!
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