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#1 Posted : 23 August 2006 11:49:00(UTC)
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Posted By Jenni Latham
Our site incorporates a small road which is considered as a public highway, it is often required for forklift truck drivers to use this road when transporting waste containers to our skip area.

We have a new starter that we wish to train as an FLT driver but he doesn't hold a normal driving licence - does anyone know if someone driving an FLT on a road classed as a public highway (and hence under the Road Traffic Act) requires a normal driving licence as well, or it the FLT licence sufficient.

I have asked this question to the HSE who told me they make no such stipulation but that they are only interested in the HASAWA. They asked me to contact the Dept of Transport which I have done but am waiting for a response.

In the meantime - can anyone offer some insight?

Thanks
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#2 Posted : 23 August 2006 12:05:00(UTC)
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Posted By AJM
Yes He must have a full licence to go on any road, I went through all this a couple of months ago. Also dont forget to have a licence plate and register your fork trucks etc including insurance if they are using a public road.
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#3 Posted : 23 August 2006 12:07:00(UTC)
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Posted By Jenni Latham
Thanks AJM for your quick response - can you direct me to any guidance or documents which clarify this?

J Latham
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#4 Posted : 23 August 2006 12:21:00(UTC)
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Posted By Darren J Fraser
Road Traffic Act

Also would you drive a car / lorry / motorbike on the road with no tax, insurance, mot, relevant licence.......I think not, therefore treat FLT as you would any other road going vehicle.
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#5 Posted : 23 August 2006 13:03:00(UTC)
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Posted By AJM
I have mailed you direct Jenni

Alan
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#6 Posted : 23 August 2006 13:32:00(UTC)
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Posted By Richard Chalkley
What is the nature of the business as some vehicles are exempt from road tax - http://www.direct.gov.uk...NT_ID=4022042&chk=OoLbFS

Richard.
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#7 Posted : 23 August 2006 13:47:00(UTC)
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Posted By George Wedgwood
There is good guidance available at http://www.fork-lift-tru...gislation/roadregs2.html I can't vouch for the latest info but if you search at thios site, I am sure you will get what you want.

and here is a clip;

Use of Fork Lift Trucks on the Public Highway
An overview - The rules at a glance
If a truck is to be used on a public highway then it must have been registered with the DVLA. Information published in May 2003 relating to the registration of fork lifts and transfer of ownership is available at http://www.fork-lift-tru...islation/roadregs2.html.
If you use so called "red diesel" fuel in your fork lift trucks, legislation which came into force on 1st April 2003 applies and for more details please click at http://www.fork-lift-tru...slation/red_diesel.html.
In order to discover what action you need to take you should be aware that the main consideration is whether the truck will travel more than 1000 yards on the public highway.
If, on the task to be performed, the fork lift truck will travel more than 1000 yards then it must comply with Construction and Use Regulations or have type approval. This involves all sorts of legal requirements and probably quite major modifications to the truck and should not be undertaken lightly. Compliance may be quite complex. If you have a truck that fits this category click at http://www.fork-lift-tru...islation/roadregs3.html.
If, on the task being performed, the Fork Lift Truck will travel less than 1000 yards, on public roads, between sites or for unloading vehicles, then there is a special dispensation. In most circumstances it can be driven with little modification but it must be insured and registered. Compliance is quite simple. This will apply to most trucks and if your truck fits into this category click at http://www.fork-lift-tru...islation/roadregs5.html.

Regards, George
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#8 Posted : 23 August 2006 15:44:00(UTC)
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Posted By ken mosley
Hi Jenni,

You ought to take a look at the Akhtar case in Manchester when a car was hit by a fork lift from a timber yard on the public highway. The forklift driver did not have a valid driving licence. It took three years for a prosecution to be brought. The police said it was a death at work and should be the HSEs job to investigate. The HSE said it was a RTA and the polices job to sort out. It took a judicial review to clear up the matter. The important bit from the standpoint of your query was that the driver was prosecuted for driving a vehicle without a license, amongst other things.

Regards
Ken
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#9 Posted : 23 August 2006 15:57:00(UTC)
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Posted By warderic
Yes you do need a driving licence, road fund licence if you travel more than 6 miles per week on a public road and a number plate. Contact The Road Transport Industry Training Board (RTITB) they will have all the info.
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