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#1 Posted : 24 August 2006 21:46:00(UTC)
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Posted By Jan Moore
Professionally, our safety department has taken on a large part of Social Services particularly involving child safety.
I had a meeting yesterday where the new safety law relating to carrying kids in cars was discussed. I was a little horrified to find out that child safety in vehicles has been a matter of luck in the past.
Has anyone else dealt with what appear to be complex issues of child protection agencies rescuing kids in danger from their families? How have others dealt with the safety issues of not knowing what kids you are picking up in terms of size etc and how have issues around having the correct seat fitted to allow the child/children to travel in a vehicle safely been addressed?
I am assuming that any seat, booster etc purchased for what I would term 'work use' would have to be checked and inspected before use and that persons collecting seats etc to fit in their cars would need to be trained in the complexities of seat fitting!!
How have others dealt with the matter of purchase and storage of such items?
You'll appreciate that this was thrown at me at such short notice (call in the morning to attend a meeting two hours later to advise. Not knowing how social workers had been working around this in the past, I needed a little more information to function!!!
Any advice would be much appreciated.

Cheers

Jan
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#2 Posted : 25 August 2006 07:34:00(UTC)
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Posted By Bob Youel
Delt with child etc issues for years - this is where H&S professionals must think 'outside of the box'

No police force is going to prosecute [think of the press coverage! 'POLICE STOP RESCUE OF CHILD BECAUSE THE SEAT BELT WAS TO BIG' etc]if a child is removed to a place of safety in a real emergency situation where there is not a 'proper' seat belt available during the course of the immediate emergency

After the 'immediate' emergency it becomes a different matter

We have 'children' [<14] who are over 6ft tall!

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#3 Posted : 25 August 2006 08:20:00(UTC)
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Posted By Jan Moore
Thanks Bob. I think, as you say, we can get around emergency situations and I raised that point. You don't leave little Johnny in the care of abusers while you are searching round for an appropriate carrier!
It sounds as though you have a lot of experience.
How do you deal with planned removal of kids. Would it be fair to say that an assortment of seats should be kept in local team offices ready for taking out and fitting? I am also assuming that you recognise the need to have these checked periodicallyand that the users of these seats must be trained in the fitting of them. I understand RoSPA do a good video on fitting. How do you approach training?
Thanks for your support in this Bob.

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#4 Posted : 25 August 2006 09:39:00(UTC)
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Posted By Bob Youel

Planned removal is completely different - we have to obey the law; its as simple as that; however complying is not so simple

Your biggest problem will be getting quality and accurate info about the child/situation from the various care services involved, at an appropriate time so as you can plan

you have to stick to your guns and demand appropriate info as it is a legal requirement that they give it ---- however [ well meaning or not] they will sometimes fight tooth and nail not to give it

Its a massive problem so you should get appropriate professional help re the new law & associated laws re these issues
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