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Posted By njc
Hi All
I am putting out an urgent request and hope some of you out there can help me.
I am looking for accident stats regarding the charging and storage of scooters in residential homes, sheltered schemes etc...
At the present time we are having a battle with the Fire Officer. He has said we can not charge or store scooters outside tenants apartments, as this is deemed as a fire risk.
The corridors have been designed to allow scooters to be parked up and all risk assessments are in place. i.e No Charging overnight (cut off switch in place) Dry batteries only, Checks carried out 3 times a day to ensure no obstructions. No flammable materials left on the scooters. PAT Testing in place etc....
What happens if the fire officer will not budge? Can we take it higher?
We have brought in an independant fire assessor and he thingsare controls are adequate? How would I take this problem higher?
Hope some of you can help.
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Posted By The toecap
I do believe you can appeal
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Posted By GT
Njc,
Has the fire officer written to you,
what grounds has he given for non storage
of these vehicles other than introduction
of combustible materials into and escape
route or obstructing the exit route.
How many scooters are involved and who
checks on a daily basis that the rules
are adhered to.
Regards
GT
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Posted By Robert K Lewis
NJC
First of all please make sure that your statement about design of the corridors for scooters was included in the design brief and if so you need to go back to the originating lead designer and get the relevant building control persons involved. Just because a corridor is wide it does not mean that it was designed for such storage. You need to check this out. It should then be possible for that designer to demonstrate the fire strategy on which basis the plans were approved. Given the initial approvals you start the next hurdle.
The fire officer may be concerned about either his officers colliding with the parked scooters in a fire situation or residents using them for escape purposes. Battery charging and potential for hydrogen build up may be in his mind so your risk assessment must demonstrate that Hydrogen is not a risk or ventilation is sufficient to prevent a build up.
Finally - Once you have your ducks in a row Appeal - but remember the time restrictions that apply for a notice of appeal to be lodged. Fire officers decisions are very personal and the new one next month may think the opposite.
Bob
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Posted By bert
Assume the "Fire Office" you refer to is an external person? Risk should be reduced through fire risk assessment so any powers that this person has should be supported throough the detail of this risk assessment which you may wish to peruse or challange
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Posted By njc
Hi his main reason is that we are endangering non scooter users and the fact that the scooters are a fire hazard. We have around 25 scooters in the building at the moment, with two floors each with 100+ flats on each floor.
The flats have been sold/rented on the fact you can bring scooters into the complex (we are a new retirement complex with shops etc on ground floor)
I can't say to much on forum regarding circumstances, but we have put all control measures in place.
We own the building and have a care company managing it 24/7 these people carry out the checks and we monitor they are doing the checks.
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