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#1 Posted : 13 September 2006 12:47:00(UTC)
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Posted By Jim Walker Warning: If you are one of those people who think this “chat” forum should be only for serious H&S issues, read no further, quickly move onto a thread requesting a quote from regulations. I half caught a news item where someone dropped “something” in a bottle of coke and the stuff gushed out in a most impressive fountain. Can anyone enlighten me? What’s the physics (or chemistry) behind it? Does cheap coke work or do you need the “real thing”. Although I am just inquisitive, I was thinking of using it as a (outside) demo about dangers of mixing two seemingly safe substances in my COSHH appreciation talks. Just thought - it would be good for demonstrating the stored energy in a pressure system as well.
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#2 Posted : 13 September 2006 13:01:00(UTC)
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Posted By Thomas Elliott Hi Jim I have actually seen a couple of similar 'experiments' like this and as far as I remember it was just sweets with sugar that caused the reaction. To be more specific I think it was smarties. Think what it's like if you take a drink of something fizzy after eating something with sugar, imagine that compressed. Thomas
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#3 Posted : 13 September 2006 13:01:00(UTC)
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Posted By Paul Bellis Apparently its Montos Mints http://www.bbc.co.uk/glo...entos_coke_feature.shtml wow Paul
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#4 Posted : 13 September 2006 13:04:00(UTC)
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Posted By gham Bicarb will do it
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#5 Posted : 13 September 2006 13:05:00(UTC)
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Posted By Paul Bellis Sorry should have read Mentos a few sweets in a small bottle and the whole pack in a big one last time I drink coke and eat a load of mints -wondered where the wind came from! Paul
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#6 Posted : 13 September 2006 13:06:00(UTC)
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Posted By Paul As a child we mixed viniger and baking soda in a plastic screw top bottle shook it violently as is a childs want and then placed it on the floor and stood well back... The bottle usually exploded in a rather messy violent way. Goodness me what was I thinking? Don't try this at home folks..
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#7 Posted : 13 September 2006 13:48:00(UTC)
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Posted By Pugwash The "fountains" are impressive but the "rockets" are even better.
Please do not try this at home....!
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#8 Posted : 13 September 2006 14:12:00(UTC)
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Posted By lewes As a wee nipper we used to get the little yellow inserts that you get in a Kinda Egg and put some bi-carbonate of Soda in it and a bit of water. Shake well and it will pop the top off. Chemistry was never my strong point so cant advise why.
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#9 Posted : 13 September 2006 14:17:00(UTC)
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Posted By Hilary Charlton Actually, at school the "thing" is to make a volcano with bicarb and vinegar and colouring and watch it go - this is homework. So, if you are a parent with children DO try this at home, but don't seal the top of the bottle!
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#10 Posted : 13 September 2006 14:25:00(UTC)
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Posted By Pugwash Keeping the thread on a serious note. The science on the mentos experiment is at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mentos_eruption I always take Wikipedia with a pinch of salt but it looks reasonable. Rather different to the vinegar and baking powder. And this is legitimate H+S.....we need to be aware of what people might get up to. :-)
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#11 Posted : 13 September 2006 15:14:00(UTC)
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Posted By Descarte Nice to see them wearing safety glasses BBC news story http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/5188482.stm
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#12 Posted : 13 September 2006 15:28:00(UTC)
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Posted By holmezy Hi all, its been on tv on a proramme called "mythbusters"....sort of an American version of "Brainiac"...but this time a chap acts eats a whole pack of Mintos then drinks a bottle of coke. Camera then records as he starts to look decidedly ill, experiences great pain, throws up, takes ages to re cuperate then swears never to do it again!! The things peiople will do in the name of science... Holmezy
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#13 Posted : 13 September 2006 16:18:00(UTC)
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Posted By Rochelle Cartmell Another good one is take a half bottle of tomato ketchup - only the one in the squeezy tube, add some bicarb of soda and place back in cupboard. Then when someone comes to use it, stand well back otherwise you get covered in tomato sauce. Another tip is only do when outside! The results are hilarious depending on who the unfortunate person is shaking the bottle!
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#14 Posted : 13 September 2006 16:24:00(UTC)
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Posted By James Perry I'd like to see the above experiment done with Rene's (indigestion tablets): All done with suitable controls, of course ;P.
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#15 Posted : 13 September 2006 17:06:00(UTC)
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Posted By Jane Blunt This experiment is one of a whole raft that are done by the Chaos team, among others see http://www.chaosscience....ub/public_html/index.php where you will find a whole lot more, suitable for all ages. Coke, like other carbonated drinks, contains a lot of dissolved carbon dioxide and the makers have arranged it that there is more than normally dissolves in the liquid. Therefore when you take the top off, some of it escapes. You can cause this to happen very quickly by providing rough surfaces on which the bubbles may grow and that is the basis of many of these experiments. The other experiment relies on the fact that coke is very acidic (you don't notice because there is so much sugar in it). So if you drop bicarbonate of soda in it the acid will react with the bicarbonate and form carbon dioxide. So you can get a jet of coke from two different experiments, and for two different reasons. In either case, shaking the bottle will have a dramatic effect. I would not recommend trying to make 'bombs' out of modern PET drinks bottles, so DO NOT screw the top back on. Jane
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