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Emergency exit widths too narrow - what can be done?
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Posted By shaun mckeever In a seven storey office block (not including ground and basement) there are 1100 employees. The building currently has a fire certificate but research has uncovered that the statutory bar applied to the building. In a nutshell this means that at the time the fire certificate was issued the Fire Authority did not respond in time to Building Control and could not go back and demand improvements. This has resulted in the building having two staircases each of which lead to a ground floor corridor of only 850mm width. The two corridors are too narrow for the number of people involved. Evacuation times are currently in excess of 8 minutes. There is a modern Category L3 detection system installed and all floors have two door protection to each staircase. With the arrival of the RR(FS)O and the repeal of the Fire Precautions Act does the statutory bar still apply and if not what can be done to improve the means of escape arrangements from the building?
Any answers greatly appreciated.
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Posted By RP Without knowing what the building fabric is made of, it may be most cost effective to install fire exits by way of external stair ways to the upper floors and suitable installed exit doors and emergency schutes/ladders to lower floor windows, these may mean changing the window opening to accomodate exiting.
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Posted By Ken Taylor I should be interested to see what replies you would get on the FireNet Fire Safety Forum on this one Shaun.
It seems to me that the building has Building Control consent and certification but that the dutyholder(s) must assess and manage the fire risk through adequate controls, procedures, etc. In this case stringent control of the condition of the stairways and Ground Floor corridor would seem essential to ensure that there is no risk of fire spread in the fabric or contents and that they remain unobstructed. It will, of course, also be necessary for the storey exit doors to remain in full working order. Is there adequate fire separation (eg fire door) in the corridor between the two stairways at Ground Floor? Does the Ground Floor corridor have at least two exits in opposite directions Is there any smoke-venting to the stairways or corridor? Whilst the evacuation time may be rather long, the more important need is for the occupants to be able to escape safely - despite the time taken.
I have come across examples of narrow exit routes in single staircase conditions on four storeys in the past where exceptions have been allowed for low occupant design density and then change of use has led to considerable numbers of persons present.
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Posted By jackw. Hi regardless of the fire service apparent failure to "get back" on this, the property should comply with the current building regulation (at the time of build). Unles it is very old, I am almost 100% sure that the corridors should be much wider and able to readily take a wheel chair.
Cheers
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Posted By shaun mckeever The trouble is Jack that the building doesn't comply and the situation exists now. What do you think are potential solutions?
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Posted By Ken Taylor The problem is that the actual legislation is somewhat general and the Approved Documents are a way of meeting the law rather than the way - and, in this case, it seems that a completion certificate has been issued by Building Control. Have you tried discussing your concern with Building Control, Shaun?
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Posted By ivorfire The statutory bar will cease with the implementation of the Fire Safety Order on 1st October.
The building can be considered as per the risk presented and dealt through the fire risk assessment and susquent significant findings.
The evacuation strategy is not covered. There are considerations that may be apparent e.g. if the building was designed with staged evacuation as opposed to total evacuation. I have come across this before with narrow means of escape buildings.
May pay to dig further and see if the orginal fire strategy is available? This may offer further information. Falling short of up grading fire alarm or putting sprinklers into the building, staged evacuation may be a solution. This will mean more money being spent on reviewing fire alarm arrangements etc.
Hope this helps.
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Posted By Adrian Watson Shaun,
Statutory bar no longer will be removed re 1st October;
Options include;
Reducing no of people using building; Staged evacuation; the enforcing authority serving on the responsible person an alterations notice requiring notification of changes to the use of the building etc.
Regards Adrian Watson
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Posted By Adrian Watson Shaun,
Statutory bar will be removed re 1st October if the change produces a serious risk to life;
Options include;
Adding an extra protected escape route to the lower levels of the building; Reducing no of people using building; Staged evacuation; the enforcing authority serving on the responsible person an alterations notice requiring notification of changes to the use of the building etc.
Regards Adrian Watson
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Posted By Geoff Parkinson Shaun
once you enter the staircase enclosure, can you reach a place of ultimate safety (an external doorway that doesn't feed into an enclosed courtyard etc)without leaving the protected route?
If they do, and the people can get into the staircase enclosures within 2 to 3 minutes, then the evacuation times are met - remembering that you need to reach a place of 'relative' safety within the laid down time, NOT ultimate safety. If you had to be outside within the times you could never occupy Canary Tower, the Gherkin etc!
The width of the corridors may only be part of the disabled issue. Do the staircases have refuge points? Means of notifying someone that a disabled person is there etc?
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Posted By cara We are in a similar situation.
Were in a shared building (3 different companies), 5 storey, with one escape route which is a very narrow stair case. I'm not sure how many staff there are in the building but am guessing at 150 plus. Since i've been working here there has been no evacuation drill. (I'm hoping one is planned in the near future!)
According to the fire bod this is acceptable.
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Posted By shaun mckeever Thanks GJB. I hear they have an excellent consultant - one of the UK's best! And at a very good price too. I hear he sticks to what he knows best and doesn't meddle in other areas where he has limited knowledge. ;0)
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