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#1 Posted : 15 September 2006 19:31:00(UTC)
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Posted By Advanced Safety
Hi all

My niece has started work in the payroll department of a large warehouse, where her job involves balancing accounts 99% of the time. However, on a very rare occasion she has to go into the warehouse for information.

Rightly or wrongly (i am no judge), she has her tongue pierced, and has been asked to remove it for health & safety reasons. When she asked what the reason was, it was explained that because she enters the warehouse on occasions, it poses a risk to her safety.

Now, although i am construction safety through and through, and dont pretend to fully understand the risks of all industries, i cannot for the life of me think how this peircing is a risk to health & safety (personal hygiene safety aside). If she walked with her tongue dragging on the floor, i could understand the concern.

Any enlightening from forum users would be appreciated. She is not contesting this issue, i am just curious.

Thanks
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#2 Posted : 15 September 2006 20:33:00(UTC)
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Posted By Kate Graham
Another example of "health and safety" being used as a euphemism for "we don't like the appearance of it".

Does she wear ear-rings?
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#3 Posted : 15 September 2006 21:34:00(UTC)
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Posted By Saracen11
Hi Advanced Safety, this rule/request is utter tosh! There are many people within many workplaces that have various piercings in various places, it doesn't pose a threat to national security or elfin safety - what next, a 'piercings check' of a persons bits and bobs in the interests of H&S?

Regards (in disbelief)
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#4 Posted : 15 September 2006 23:37:00(UTC)
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Posted By sagalout
I cannot see any obvious reasons for it and have never come across a situation where I would expect to find it in non-food environment BUT I would want to talk with the people making the rule before dismssing it. There is always something to learn in H&S.

regards
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#5 Posted : 16 September 2006 03:26:00(UTC)
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Posted By Brett Day

My first question when I've been told you can't do that due to H&S is ask why and find out the rationale.

Off the cuff sounds like they don't like it.
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#6 Posted : 17 September 2006 09:56:00(UTC)
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Posted By Chris Packham
Could she not ask to see the risk assessment that indicates just why this is needed?
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#7 Posted : 18 September 2006 12:08:00(UTC)
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Posted By Brian John Abbs
Ridiculous.
As Brett says. As soon as someone says to me "Elfin safety innit" I question them.

Usually you will find an operational or financial decision at the bottom of it.
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#8 Posted : 18 September 2006 13:31:00(UTC)
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Posted By Stupendous Man
I can only see a problem if your workplace has some sort of high-powered magnetic device that requires the removal of anything metallic.

Just to note though, it is worth remembering that tongue piercings do heal very, very quickly. As such, temporary removal is not an option.
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#9 Posted : 18 September 2006 13:39:00(UTC)
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Posted By JM82
Glad I work in an office then!!
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#10 Posted : 18 September 2006 13:57:00(UTC)
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Posted By gham
It's a bright sunny day and said persons decides to go for a wander into the warehouse, there’s a door open and the temptation to go for a breath of fresh air is too great. Upon reaching the open door there’s a sigh, a stretch and a yawn.... at that point the FLT operator it completing a trick manoeuvre with a pallet full of stock on one of the higher reaches of racking, the sunlight glints off the piercing within the yawning mouth, catching the eye of the FLT guy/gal dazzling him/her, causing him to strike the racking which collapses taking out 4 aisles. An operative outside having a crafty fag hears the crash and carelessly flicks his ciggy away, the light breeze catching it and blowing it towards the tinder dry grass buy the side of the building. A fire starts and spread rapidly taking out the MD's X5 in the nearby car park......

The more I think about it the more I see their point

Not!
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#11 Posted : 18 September 2006 15:17:00(UTC)
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Posted By Richard Altoft
She should ask that a MHSW Regs reg 13 assessment be carried out with and without said piercing in place to show catagorically that her capability as regards health and safety is affected by it. Should be easy enough if the person in charge is as competent as they should be in such a strange environment.
Do they also discriminate against people with artifical hips, metal framed spectacles, tie clips, cuff links, loose change, steel toe caps, or is this an uncovered wound thing - in which case every eye corner and nasal passages need covering and every little cut or blister or cold sore etc would need those so at risk to be sent home until fully cured.
If they are talking nonsense and using our profession to hide behind then take them on and let them see what we really know !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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#12 Posted : 18 September 2006 17:25:00(UTC)
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Posted By Stupendous Man
A 'regulation 13 assessment' - wow, that does sound important.
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#13 Posted : 18 September 2006 20:13:00(UTC)
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Posted By Richard Altoft
There goes my secret weapon.
Always sorts out the chancers from those who really know. Just like silencing those chancers who say they are competent to do something by asking them if they are capable and how they know.
Its common sense really!
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