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#1 Posted : 26 September 2006 15:43:00(UTC)
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Posted By Des Daly
We are carrying out a LOLER Audit tomorrow on our principal contractor - we may have a problem in that they do not individually identify the shackles that are used in lifting. They say that a manufacturer's batch number is sufficient to identify them and that should there be a problem they would withdraw the whole batch. We are saying that the principle of uniquely identifying lifting equipment must apply to shackles - anyone have experience of this comment?
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#2 Posted : 26 September 2006 15:51:00(UTC)
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Posted By The toecap
I believe this is no true. Each peice of lifting tackle needs to be checked identified and placed in a register i can send you something if tou give me an email.
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#3 Posted : 26 September 2006 15:59:00(UTC)
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Posted By Salus
Des, loler reg 7 accessories used in lifting must be marked with any info necessary to ensure safe use

Hope this is of help
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#4 Posted : 26 September 2006 16:11:00(UTC)
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Posted By The toecap
I should learn to spell
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#5 Posted : 26 September 2006 16:21:00(UTC)
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Posted By Darren J Fraser
I was under the impression that each piece of lifting equipment, including shackles should be individually identified and recorded in a register, and that part of the identification should also include a clear marking as to whether it can or cannot be used for the lifting of people.
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#6 Posted : 26 September 2006 20:25:00(UTC)
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Posted By Eddie Campbell
A typical shackle made by Crosby or Green Pin may be made in batches of up to 1000 or more depending on their capacity. For example 1 tonne capacity shackles may be made in batches of 1000 and 1000 tonne capacity shackles may be made in batches of 1.

The above example demonstrates that every shackle must be UID marked. If you have 20 shackles each with the same number how can you have an examination scheme that can record and identify each shackles unless it is uniquely identified or UID marked? The easiest way to achieve this is to state your numbering sequence on the order form and get the supplier to do it for you. If they realise that the difference between getting the sale and their competitor getting the sale is to stamp them for free then they will stamp them for free.

No doubt some poor misguided soul will claim that some of the shackles are too small to stamp and they will be correct. So find another way to mark them with their UID number.

And don’t swallow the old chestnut about changing out the whole batch for another. Economics alone would make this option a no brainer when it comes to the bigger stuff where they can cost £10,000 per unit or more. It’s a wee while since I bought any big bits!

No UID means "DO NOT USE" or fail this part of the audit. No excuses and no exceptions.

Regards

Eddie
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#7 Posted : 27 September 2006 16:12:00(UTC)
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Posted By Des Daly
Thanks folks - good information and I am clear on our position now.
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