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#1 Posted : 03 October 2006 16:00:00(UTC)
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Posted By Malcolm Greenhouse I have started work in a new enterprise which does not have any risk assessments at all. It employs 160 people in building fabric maintenance, mostly houses, kitchen fit outs, new bathrooms, new windows, roof work, fencing, drains etc. Several questions. 1. We have had an accident involving a trapped finger in a manhole cover during drain work. Should the approach to risk assessment be for each task performed or should heavy manhole lids be a risk within drainage work? 2. Whilst I would not normally recommend generic risk assessments because I think they lack the benefits of ownership against those that have been worked through from first principles I am worried about the time a first principles approach will take. The question therefore is does anyone know of a suitable off the shelf package for generic risk assessments for the type of work described earlier? All replies, suggestions and advice warmly welcomed.
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#2 Posted : 03 October 2006 16:23:00(UTC)
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Posted By JAI I visited a construction site the other day, on my visit i asked to see RA/COSHH assessments I was then shown two CDR disks each one contained 200 generic risk assessments I do not see an issue with generic assessments however they should be used as an aid memoir and adapted The question is do you have the time to carry out a risk assessment each and every time you carry out the task? If you’re on the move to different locations, sites etc my suggestion would be generic and provide training to suit Jai
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#3 Posted : 03 October 2006 16:23:00(UTC)
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Posted By Catman Hi Malcolm How about making your assessment a two stage process, with the generic aspects already covered and then space for the employee (& supervisor) to assess any additional site specific risks at each contract? With a bit of training this can be effective and employees are part of the process. Just one way of doing it. Cheers TW
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#4 Posted : 03 October 2006 16:27:00(UTC)
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Posted By Raymond Rapp Malcolm Agree with the two pevious postings. I would also add that generic RAs are ok, and either an addendum can be added to ensure they are site specific, or a stage 1&2 process. Obviously stage 1 is generic and stage 2 can build on issues not covered in stage 1. Ray
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#5 Posted : 03 October 2006 17:17:00(UTC)
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Posted By Malcolm Greenhouse Thanks to all that have contributed so far, some good ideas coming through. Anyone with a specific generic risk assessment product for the construction/ building maintenance industry to recommend?
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#6 Posted : 03 October 2006 18:03:00(UTC)
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Posted By Raymond Rapp Forgot: Q1 Ideally, a method statement should cover this activities. Ok, a MS cannot cover every conceivable risk. [expletive deleted] can still happen and does!
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#7 Posted : 04 October 2006 10:37:00(UTC)
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Posted By John Caboche Construction Industry Publications publish a very handy little book of about 60 generic risk assessments for the sum of £8.50 Website: http://www.cip-books.com/ It's very useful publication for site agents etc. to use a a starting point as sugested above. John
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#8 Posted : 04 October 2006 12:22:00(UTC)
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Posted By Malcolm Greenhouse John Sorry to bother you but do you have the title or the ISBN for the reccomended book. I have been unable to identify it on the website. Cheers Mal
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#9 Posted : 04 October 2006 12:31:00(UTC)
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Posted By John Caboche Malcom, Go to the bookshop section and select Health and Safety - it's about 2/3 of the way down. Details: Publication Details: ISBN: 1852639725 First Published: 1999 Publisher: CIP Category(ies): Health and Safety Description: This book contains 72 sample forms, which act as a guide for the various operations within the Construction Industry Hope this helps John
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