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#1 Posted : 04 October 2006 15:44:00(UTC)
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Posted By Jennifer Kelly The powers that be within my organisation have decided to follow the way of other charity shops and offer for sale second hand electrical goods to customers. I have been asked to brief them on the H&S implications and 'other relevant issues/implications'. I am panicking slightly as I don't quite know where to start! Any suggestions or guidance very gratefully received. Jennifer
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#2 Posted : 04 October 2006 16:04:00(UTC)
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Posted By Jim Walker Long time since I saw electricals in charity shops. I had assumed they were more trouble than they are worth. I guess you need to justify this though? How are you going to ensure they meet/conform to the EEC regulations for safe supply of goods There is much more to it that PA Testing (someone will come along soon and tell you this is all you need to do).
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#3 Posted : 04 October 2006 16:26:00(UTC)
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Posted By jackw. Hi, we had a sort of similar problem with people trying to donate electrical goods to us (a social work department), to pass on to "needy" clients. As has been said more hassle than they are worth. You need to ensure they are sound and in good working order = a competent electrician must check and certify all electrical equipment. My advice don't supply them. cheers.
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#4 Posted : 04 October 2006 16:29:00(UTC)
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Posted By edwin You can get relevant information from your local trading standards department - look on their website. This is a link I found: http://www.nottinghamshi...%20electrical%20goods%22
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#5 Posted : 04 October 2006 16:31:00(UTC)
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Posted By andymak As far as I was aware all secondhand electrical goods required full safety testing before they could be sold on by a business, which does include charity shops. Unfortunately in this age of litigation the consequences of someone getting hurt from a secondhand appliance bought in a charity shop could be dire for the charity. The same goes for secondhand furniture, if it is soft furnishings it still has to have the swing tag attached which gives information about fire resistance else they are not allowed to sell it.
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#6 Posted : 05 October 2006 11:35:00(UTC)
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Posted By J Knight Hi Jennifer, We have 400 Charity Shops, and a few years ago, before I was in post, were formally cautioned by Trading Standards for selling inadequately wired table lamps in one of our shops. We have not given up though. We did suspend the sale of electricals for a couple of years, and during that time we worked closely with Trading Standards, and using the services of a consultant electrical engineer developed a robust testing and qa protocol which we believe will allow us to comply with the law. We collect electricals through our shops, and they are then transported to designated premises where they get a thorough visual inspection and PA test. They are logged, labelled, and subjected to a second inspection immediately prior to being put on the sales floor; this is the missing step ion our original system which led to the caution. The records are subjected to regular inspection and audit. Our problem is the rapidly diminishing profit margin on electrical goods; we can't sell many high-value products, such as laptops, as they are complex and not easily tested, and low value stuff can be picked up for practically nothing from a supermarket near you. However, we do make money on electricals, and it is worth considering, John
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#7 Posted : 05 October 2006 13:13:00(UTC)
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Posted By Jennifer Kelly John - thanks for your response. Any chance you could contact me directly with your contact details? my email - jenniferxkelly@yahoo.co.uk regards Jennifer
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