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#1 Posted : 12 October 2006 17:48:00(UTC)
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Posted By Matthew Herd Hi, I am what is called a 'production electrician' installing temporary power supplies from generators for corporate events in marquees and such like. I was wondering if there was any legislation directly effecting temporary power supplies and whether these should be tested in the same way as new installations in buildings? If for example I would need to perform an earth loop impedance test where would I find my regulation values of Zs for comparison? Would these be the same as in BS7671? I have a lot of questions about how much testing should be carried out on these supplies and have spoken to many people and still I cannot get a definite yes or no. Id be grateful if someone could offer some advice. My email is matthew.herd@mhtechnicalsolutions.co.uk. All comments appreciated.
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#2 Posted : 12 October 2006 21:38:00(UTC)
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Posted By George Wedgwood I would check the information list on the HSE site at http://www.hse.gov.uk/el...rmation/construction.htm and purchase the construction site guidance, as that will give you the sort of level you require for a similar type of variable risk. I find it very useful but you will also benefit from the other 'Electricity in public places' guidance at http://www.hse.gov.uk/el...y/information/public.htm as that will deal with similar conditions. The 'IEE Wiring Regs' will give the required Z's for your circuits and they should all be tested in accordance with that BS before putting into service. If you have good results on the appropriate forms, then claims can be properly defended and you competence will not be in doubt. Ensure that you have a certificate of competence in the BS7671 for your own protection! Regards, George
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#3 Posted : 13 October 2006 00:40:00(UTC)
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Posted By Ken Taylor Basically, the 'Wiring Regs' are applicable to almost all installations whether permanent or temporary.
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#4 Posted : 14 October 2006 12:06:00(UTC)
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Posted By Matthew Herd Thanks for your help.
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#5 Posted : 14 October 2006 14:26:00(UTC)
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Posted By Mike Herbert I think there is another BS 7909 i believe that gives guidance for temporary power supplies to broadcast and entertainment. I forget its full name. There are always problems with these set ups such as caterers turning up with an extra 5kW urn that needs power and many other things related to technical equipment. Seperate phase for sound equipment from lighting and so on. Systems need to be properly designed to take account of situations like these. Hopefully you would be included in these decisions at an early stage. Testing the system from power supply as far as local distribution and making sure suitable RCD's are fitted is probably about as far as you can practically go before all the other contractors starting putting stuff into your system. As a temporary supply it is not viewed quite the same way as permanent buildings and requirements are sometimes laid out in public ents licence (if required) for the event. Make it as safe as you possibly can. Others further up the food chain will have to take responsibility for what comes after. Contact me direct if you wish. Hope this helps a bit cheers mike
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#6 Posted : 15 October 2006 09:38:00(UTC)
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Posted By Chris Pope This is where I would look http://www.blue-room.org.uk/index.php? it is called the blue room and has a power section where you can ask specialist questions.
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#7 Posted : 15 October 2006 12:39:00(UTC)
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Posted By Matthew Herd Cheers Mike, I had never heard of that BS. I now have a copy and am flicking my way through! Thanks to all for your help on this subject.
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#8 Posted : 15 October 2006 22:30:00(UTC)
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Posted By Jeffery Watt Matthew Good advice especially from Mike re someone turns up with an extra urn. I got dropped in a similar position two years ago, I'm not a spark but I will give you some general advice. One spark to rule them all. Your the local guy all electrical decisions through you. Anyone wants a phone charger plugged in it needs to be on your list so you can mange the demands put on the system. Decide if you have any leeway but set a date for the planners to have all electrical needs established by, and explain why. If Johnny from sales wants to bring in 15 display cabinets at the last moment, well at least you warned them and it's not your fault they can't be used. Bonding. Will the marquis metal super structure need supplementary bonding to earth and how will you achieve this on the selected surface. Traffic. People will drive over your 3 phase cables running to the tent even if you threaten them with sticks. You will need to consider protecting them, running along building edges or barriers. Best of luck Jeff
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