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#1 Posted : 18 October 2006 21:07:00(UTC)
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Posted By Jan Moore Can anyone help please? I am trying to develop a work policy for the above ladies and am wondering what safety implications there might be (i.e. Health and Safety at Work rather than HR). As one who's been there, done it and got the T shirt (along with a few years worth of HRT),I can't see what I should be looking for ragards these ladies being at special risk whilst at work. If anyone else has developed a similar policy, I would love to hear from you. Kind regards Jan
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#2 Posted : 18 October 2006 21:23:00(UTC)
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Posted By mark limon Are you serious, imagine,whoops sorry about dropping that on your head but its my time of the month. this is a joke,hopefully
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#3 Posted : 18 October 2006 22:09:00(UTC)
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Posted By RP Er...no
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#4 Posted : 18 October 2006 22:21:00(UTC)
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Posted By Kate Graham The correct policy is "free chocolate".
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#5 Posted : 18 October 2006 22:22:00(UTC)
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Posted By sagalout Jan, There is an increasing recognition that there are real issues for female employees with regard to the menopause at least. Try the link below and look at section 2 of the report, it covers some thoughts on hazards and risks in this area. Hope this helps http://www.tuc.org.uk/h_and_s/tuc-6316-f0.cfm
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#6 Posted : 18 October 2006 22:27:00(UTC)
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Posted By sagalout Kate, but you would have to give all us worn out geezers chocolate as well otherwise you is discrimernaten. p.s I have it on trusted and close authority that its even better with a good bottle of Rioja and a thick duvet.
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#7 Posted : 19 October 2006 08:29:00(UTC)
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Posted By Jim Walker Can't win! We are constantly being beat over the head with laws requiring that we don't discriminate. Then someone asks this! I've enough trouble trying to communicate to females that we need to know when they are pregnant so as to risk assess. Then there is this thing about not doing a young persons risk assessment................ Sorry I'm crabby, was woken up several times last night by er indoors throwing off the duvet because of hot flushes!!
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#8 Posted : 19 October 2006 08:54:00(UTC)
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Posted By Homer I can actually see this being a problem but it would clearly be open to abuse. You could take many a strange slant on this, husband/partner needs to stay at home , husband/partner depressed as he is going through the rounds at home. I am not being sexist but I do remember we had a young lady at school who used to faint, or so we thought, she was rumbled when someone pointed out that was her second period that month. A tricky question with no ideal answer, if employee is hard working it's not really an issue as they can work with employer, if their a slacker then it will be days off here there and everywhere.
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#9 Posted : 19 October 2006 09:45:00(UTC)
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Posted By Descarte UNISON have some good information and guides on what can be reasonably expected from an employer and employee.
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#10 Posted : 19 October 2006 09:50:00(UTC)
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Posted By Peter Longworth A risk assesment on moody women. Would they be treated as the hazard or those at risk?
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#11 Posted : 19 October 2006 09:57:00(UTC)
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Posted By Jonathan Breeze Interesting question Jan. I wonder if it is policy level stuff though, or rather a consideration to be made at the Risk Assessment stage? Also what about the male 'testosterone surge' that is responsible for blokes thinking they can do the impossible; policy or assessment? Finally would it promote a victim mentality if we went down this route? "It's not my fault, I'm a man/woman?" (delete as appropriate). Sorry I have no answers here - I'm just thinking out aloud and will have to do more research.
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#12 Posted : 19 October 2006 10:08:00(UTC)
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Posted By Jonathan Breeze I've just checked the UNISON site and found an article in a back-issue of "Health & Safety Organiser" that may be of use. It's on page 6 of this PDF document: http://www.unison.org.uk/acrobat/B812.pdf
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#13 Posted : 19 October 2006 10:39:00(UTC)
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Posted By Descarte They also produce an information booklet called "Women's Health and Safety" which includes some info about "The change"
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#14 Posted : 19 October 2006 12:48:00(UTC)
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Posted By Sean Nuttall I can only be thankful that our girls at work are all young and symptomless and by the time the hot flushes come along with sleepless nights, misplacing my wallet in the freezer (my fault of course), misplacing the newly purchased bread in the washing machine (my fault of course), wandering around the house/workplace forgetting what they got out of their chairs to do, having to buy Mazda MX5's and all the other lunacies of change time; I shall be retired. Would the MX5 be the worlds most popular sports car if it wasn't for HRT patches ?
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#15 Posted : 19 October 2006 18:57:00(UTC)
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Posted By Jan Moore Thank you all for your replies... I must admit to having a snigger or two!!! I have to admit as well that I found it strange that two guys from GMB felt that menopausal ladies should be likened to pregnant ladies and wanted to include time off for 'hot flushes' which could amount to years (been there, got the T shirt!!). There is a distinct lack of European Legislation relating to us old 'uns and I am not sure I would want any legislation to cover us anyway! I certainly agree with (sorry, forget who said it)the reference to a testosterone rush (blokes going through a mid life crisis buying syrups and trendy gear)and therefore think we should start developing policies for the same otherwise there will be a few claims of sex discrimination!! Where on earth would you draw the line. Anyway, thanks again AND DON'T GET ME STARTED!!!! Kind regards Jan
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#16 Posted : 19 October 2006 19:50:00(UTC)
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Posted By mark limon I suppose they could wear a red (warning )flag or badge saying "mood swing likely"or "threat of violence very real" or "unreasonableness guaranteed"or "dont approach closer than 10yards" or finally "liable to explode without warning". I have 4 sisters and 1 daughter,all the above apply. Not sure how Id risk assess though other than from a distance!!!.
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#17 Posted : 19 October 2006 20:14:00(UTC)
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Posted By Steve Cartwright I once came across a hazard data sheet that highlighted all the risks associated with women, which I thought was funny but true. I would not like to be the one who tries to enforce this policy. GOOD LUCK.
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#18 Posted : 19 October 2006 20:35:00(UTC)
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Posted By Jan Moore Really strange that apart from Kate, all other responses have been from blokes!...you really can't win can you? what with PMT, partners getting faddy when pregnant, and then this!!!!! I'd be the first to agree that a red, amber or green flag was the way forward. Take care and again thanks for the replies. Take care Jan
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