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Admin		#1 Posted : 27 October 2006 10:22:00(UTC)
Rank: Guest		Posted By halesowen Baggie A wheel has come of one of our forklifts this morning.Nobody hurt. It seems that there has been some play in the nuts that have worn the thread off the corresponding studs. The operator carrying out his daily checks would be unaware of the problem as all the nuts would be in situ on the wheel. Anybody come across this before?Should the maintaining company carrying out statutory checks have picked up this fault?
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Admin		#2 Posted : 27 October 2006 10:36:00(UTC)
Rank: Guest		Posted By Geoff Parkinson I would suggest this should be reported under RIDDOR, as a 'near miss' (dangerous occurence).
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Admin		#3 Posted : 27 October 2006 10:56:00(UTC)
Rank: Guest		Posted By Vernon Kay Report this issue under the RIDDOR 95 Regs as sounds like a dangerous occurrence.
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Admin		#4 Posted : 27 October 2006 10:56:00(UTC)
Rank: Guest		Posted By halesowen Baggie Geoff, Is there a need to report to RIDDOR as a dangerous occurrence? I have done but just as a precautionary measure, I dont think there is a need to report this as required by the Regs.
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Admin		#5 Posted : 27 October 2006 11:08:00(UTC)
Rank: Guest		Posted By Alan Hoskins Reportable: The collapse of, the overturning of, or the failure of any load-bearing part of any: ...fork lift truck. Wheels are definitely load-bearing, but was that the intention of RIDDOR I wonder? Alan
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Admin		#6 Posted : 27 October 2006 11:11:00(UTC)
Rank: Guest		Posted By GSPaterson Its essentially a failure of a load bearing part of lifting equipment....so i would say yes, its a reportable dangerous occurrence
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Admin		#7 Posted : 27 October 2006 11:15:00(UTC)
Rank: Guest		Posted By Smurfer I would suggest a dab of paint on each nut/wheel to make it easy for the operator to spot loose wheel nuts would help - alternatively the plastic 'arrow' things that trucks have on the wheels. Perhaps a monthly (weekly?) check on the tighteness of the nuts as well. I agree - reportable - just think, it could've happened with a heavy load with the forks up high, and the results could've been severe.
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Admin		#8 Posted : 27 October 2006 11:15:00(UTC)
Rank: Guest		Posted By Geoff Parkinson RIDDOR (Reoprting of Injuries, Diseases and DANGEROUS OCCURRENCES) sort of gives it away. As a rule of thumb, I look at the incident and consider, if under different circumstances, could injury have occurred? I would say your incidentt clearly fits the RIDDOR model, and my own thumb! The plus side is youa ren't having to deal with a fatality or serious injury.
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Admin		#9 Posted : 27 October 2006 11:17:00(UTC)
Rank: Guest		Posted By halesowen Baggie This is why Ive reported the incident, would the wheel be classed as a load bearing part under the title of the RIDDOR schedule heading LIFTING MACHINERY,ETC?
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Admin		#10 Posted : 27 October 2006 11:24:00(UTC)
Rank: Guest		Posted By halesowen Baggie At a previous employment one of the lift trucks wheels went through the floor of a lorry it was loading. Reportable, could somebody have been hurt? Told NOT to report this by the Enforcing Authority!
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Admin		#11 Posted : 27 October 2006 11:32:00(UTC)
Rank: Guest		Posted By Smurfer The floor, although being 'load-bearing', is not part of the lifting equipment. The FLT is lifting equipment, and the wheel is load-bearing.
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Admin		#12 Posted : 27 October 2006 11:34:00(UTC)
Rank: Guest		Posted By GSPaterson Qoute from HSG6 which is - safety in working with lifts trucks "The rear end of the forklift swings in a circle around the front wheels that support most of the load." Hence wheels/axles are load bearing parts = Reportable RIDDOR is unclear with its terms and definitions on what is a dangerous occurrence and is reportable, it amazes me
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Admin		#13 Posted : 27 October 2006 11:49:00(UTC)
Rank: Guest		Posted By halesowen Baggie Thanks guys, With Riddor if I am unsure with technicalities I report anyway (as I have done today).
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Admin		#14 Posted : 27 October 2006 11:52:00(UTC)
Rank: Guest		Posted By The toecap Back to the original issue. I've never come across this before. But, i would reccommend that you put those little yellow things on the wheel nuts, they will then indicate any movement. But, what are you gonna do when you know there has been movement. You'll need a torque wrench to sort it out.
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Admin		#15 Posted : 27 October 2006 11:57:00(UTC)
Rank: Guest		Posted By GSPaterson Or should the (competent & trained to do so) maintenance company be called to adjust the torque of the nuts, rendering the FLT useless until they have carried out the work and costing £££ every second its sat unused? Whole new kettle of fish.
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