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#1 Posted : 30 October 2006 17:21:00(UTC)
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Posted By skooter1 Hi all, Can you help me with a question that was posed to me this after noon. How much space is required per person in an office? I have in my head that it should be 11 meters squared is that right. Can someone tell me or point me in the right direction. Many thanks. Scott
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#2 Posted : 30 October 2006 17:29:00(UTC)
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Posted By skooter1 Just answered my own question. THE WORKPLACE (HEALTH, SAFETY AND WELFARE) REGULATIONS 1992 ROOM DIMENSIONS AND SPACE (REG 10) 34 Regulation 10 (1) introduces consideration of safety and welfare to the requirement on working space. The ACOP space standard of 11 cubic metres per person is based on the OSRP Act standard and relates to the volume of the room when empty. It is purely a value that does not take into account space taken up by furnishings, etc, and may not yield sufficient unoccupied space to comply with the regulation. Action may be appropriate where cramped working conditions are caused by excessive furnishings, equipment, etc. Thank you anyway.
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#3 Posted : 30 October 2006 19:19:00(UTC)
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Posted By JWG I've also read somewhere that with the furniture you should be looking at at least 16 metres cubed per person. Don't forget, for the calculation, any ceiling height above 3 metres should be classed as 3 metres.
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#4 Posted : 30 October 2006 23:55:00(UTC)
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Posted By Ken Taylor Please note that 11 metres cubed is not the same as 11 cubic metres - the former being 121 cubic metres! Actual floor space will depend upon ceiling height - so read on further in the Approved Code of Practice to the WHSW Regs.
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#5 Posted : 31 October 2006 00:33:00(UTC)
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Posted By Ken Taylor Sorry, it's 1331 cubic metres - I should have hit the 'x' button twice (but it is the early hours of the morning here)! It would be useful to be able to amend one's own postings as you can on some other sites.
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#6 Posted : 31 October 2006 08:54:00(UTC)
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Posted By Ali 11 cubic metres per person up to max ceiling ht of 3m. Include fixtures & fittings, but discount anything that can be moved (chairs, filing cabinets etc).
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#7 Posted : 31 October 2006 09:35:00(UTC)
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Posted By Bob Shillabeer The Workplace Health, Safety & Welfare Regulations 1992 Regulation 10 applies. Minimum space is required; this is defined as enough free space to allow people to get to and from workstations and to move the room with ease. The room available is not the only criteria, the number of people working in it is a key factor to consider. The total volume required is the total volume of the room (up to 3m) divided by the number of people who work there and must be a minimum of 11 cubic metres per person or put another way 3.7 square metres per person. If less than 3m high say 2.4 the floor area needed is 4.6 square meters and so on. The important thing to remember is that when furniture is added there may be a need for more space per person; this depends on the nature of the work undertaken for example if the work requires people to move around a lot more space is needed but if the work is desk bound such as a call centre the minimum would be 11 cubic meters plus comfort space. When assesing the available space I work on the vasis of 11 cubic meters plus additional space according to the activity being undertaken plus a couple of cubic meters. When assessing a meeting room which by the way does not demand the 11 cubic meters rule I work on the basis of how many can sit around the table and maintain a walkway of 1200mm all round. I find this makes the room comfortable enough for a meeting without becoming too stuffy.
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#8 Posted : 21 November 2006 12:54:00(UTC)
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Posted By matthew gibbs Would anyone happen to know if a new work space of 9m(length) x 6.5(width) x 2.04m (height) - not including furniture - would be in breach of The Workplace Act ?
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#9 Posted : 21 November 2006 12:56:00(UTC)
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Posted By J Knight Matthew, How many people in it? And does it have good access and egress, suitable lighting and ventilaition, and can people walk around it without banging into things or each other? John
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#10 Posted : 21 November 2006 13:14:00(UTC)
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Posted By David Bannister You should also consider Building Regs Approved Doc B regarding maximum occupancy rates which may produce a different result to the 11m3 derived from the Workplace Regs. From memory this produces a 6m2 minimum floor space for an office but please check before using this figure.
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#11 Posted : 21 November 2006 13:17:00(UTC)
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Posted By matthew gibbs John Current suggestion is for ten staff. The scheme is still on the drawing board, but I thought before a problem arises it may be worth avoiding any issues. Due to site constraints, the floor to ceiling height is therefore likely to be 2.04m. There is one proposed access/egress door into adjoining protected stair well and one lift door Using all the criteria set out above, i have calculated room volumn of 117m3 (say 120m3 for ease of numbers). Based on 2m high ceiling, thats 5.5sqm per person (excluding furniture). However with furniture I anticipate that the space will only allow a about 8 people. Matt
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#12 Posted : 21 November 2006 13:42:00(UTC)
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Posted By J Knight Okay, well you've got 119 cuM there, which is just about the bare minimum in an empty room; however, if the building regs square footage quoted above is right, then you don't meet that. And as other people have said, you do need to take furniture into account when considering how many people your room will actually hold, though the guidance to the Workplace Regs is very vague about exactly what it means by taking furniture into account; it sounds to me taking all this into account, and without having actually seen the space, like 8 is a better bet than 10. It also depends on the activity in the room; i think I've kind of assumed fairly sedentary work; if people are moving about, e.g. in a workshop, then you will need more room just to allow for effective traffic-ways and to ease handling requirements etc, John
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#13 Posted : 21 November 2006 20:47:00(UTC)
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Posted By Ken Taylor - and don't forget, the layout has to be such that it's safe to get to and from the places in the room where you have to work and to get out in the event of fire. Too many rooms look fine when empty but turn into tortuous nightmares when occupied and filled with furniture, etc.
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#14 Posted : 08 December 2006 09:46:00(UTC)
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Posted By sharon101 Hi all I am in an office that measures approx length 2.75m x width 2.50m x height 3.00+m. There are two people sharing this office. Am I right in thinking this is too small for two people? Also, the office gets minimal natural light through a window into another office which has natural light. On top of this there is no ventilation system that I can find. Are there any regulations about natural light and ventilation requirements for office space? Many thanks, Sharon
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#15 Posted : 08 December 2006 10:07:00(UTC)
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Posted By David Bannister Hi Sharon, on the face of it the workspace appears to be too small for two persons, but as always, the Workplace Regs insert various "get out clauses." The ACOP uses "should" when talking about dimensions etc rather than "shall," the difference being that "shall" is an absolute duty, "should" is what is expected unless there are cast iron reasons not to. As far as lighting goes, natural light is preferred but only where reasonably practicable. Ventilation must be "suitable" which, again, is not much use. Sadly, the usual advice about risk assessment is the way to determine the way in which your workplace must be set up, rather than prescriptive Regulation. The Approved Code Of Practice to the Workplace (Health, Safety and Welfare) Regs 1992 gives additional detail that should allow you to reach a reasoned conclusion on what (if any) changes must be made.
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#16 Posted : 08 December 2006 19:02:00(UTC)
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Posted By Granville Jenkins Hi Sharon To be brief: The Chartered Institute of Building Service Engineers (CIBSE) recommend 6 air changes per hour (ach) or a minimum of 4 ach. Going back to the 11m3 rule this would give a minimum outdoor air supply of 4.721 litres per second per person. With respect to the office lighting, if you are using a visual display screen the lighting design should conform to CIBSE LG3 which recommends 300lux on the working plane (the working plane being your desk). As a note CAT2 is no longer applicable (this is a technical term for a certain type of luminaire that was put in offices carte blanche to cover all ills as it conformed to previous guidance), so if someone comes along and tells you that 'you have CAT2 fittings' tell them the guidance has changed and there is now a need for the lighting to be designed to LG3. CIBSE documents are guidance documents and although they have no legal standing for clarification the courts would look to the documents in much the same way as an approved code of pratice (ACOP). I hope the above is of some assistance! Regards Granville
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#17 Posted : 11 December 2006 02:57:00(UTC)
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Posted By William it is section 10 of the workplace (health, safety and welfare regulations 1992) which applies to this, but it does exempt retail sales kiosks, attendants shelters, and also lecture meeting rooms. There should be a minimum of 11 cubic metres per person, and if the room is higher than 3 metres you will only be able to count the height as 3 metres and if there is alot of furniture in the area you will need to re-assess the workplace to take account of this, such as if you have several large filing cabinets you will have to take their dimensions into account and take that away from the rooms cubic size when assessing the room size.
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#18 Posted : 13 December 2006 18:51:00(UTC)
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Posted By sharon101 Hello and thank you all for your responses. One last question. Are these EU regulations or do they just relate to working space in the UK? Thanks again, Sharon
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#19 Posted : 13 December 2006 19:37:00(UTC)
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Posted By William i can find no directive saying anything about one was passed but i did find a mention that the HSE revieved the workplace regs for the european commision in 2003 and concluded they were working well, so i would say that you would be best to abide by them.
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