Posted By Tommy Cooper Oh dear, oh dear Kevin. Sounds like you should phone the Samaritans! With trainers having the attitude of yourself, it is no wonder people find health and safety dull. Cheer up for gawds sake!

Posted By Alan Haynes This isn't a new story - has happened for a few years now. Bought my poppy last week - was offered a pin, which I took and pinned the poppy on. As I understand it, what sellers won't do is pin it on for you in case they stick the pin in you, or damage your clothes, and you sue them. Its a minor variation on the 'bonkers conkers' theme

Posted By Jeepster Once you accept H&S is flying in the face of human evolution, and you are trying to fight mother natures attempt to improve the gene pool. This job becomes a whole lot easier ! On the other hand if you can work out why people do not want to listen, follow procedures, use ppe, barriers, or any other equipment and are intent on discovering things for themselves....and you have a solution then we will be rich ! Anyone seen 2006 Darwin Awards yet?

Posted By peter gotch Hi Kevin, Has been previously discussed on this forum. See http://www.iosh.co.uk/in...iew&forum=1&thread=16145 Regards, Peter

Posted By Advanced Safety My day. Left the house at 5.30am to tavel 2 hrs to visit 16 Scaffolders working on a new RC Frame building. After landing at the site, i commenced my trek through the mud, fog and screaming early morning plant engines to find the Site Manager to introduce myself and to be inducted before meeting my unsuspecting clients. Folling induction, i was let out on my own (that mud again!) to find my clients. After climbing 11 floors of a building, i was met by the Scaffolders coming down the stairs, and met with the comment (No tube on site mate, we are going to breakfast and then home). With this, i phoned the client, who told me to leave the visit until another week. Settled for big brekkie in the canteen with the scaffolders and then howm. All paid for by the client. Wet, tired, dirty, but a hearty meal with good people. I dont love the mud and cold, but i love the job! keep at it, every job gets its knocks.

Posted By Kieran J Duignan Jepster's observation 'Once you accept H&S is flying in the face of human evolution, and you are trying to fight mother natures attempt to improve the gene pool...' is partly right. It is valid IN THE SHORT TERM and it explains how safety measures are designed to channel human evolution and secure for medium- and long-term improvements 'in the gene pool' and even of survival. Those who has been exposed to even one fatality at work and realises that it could have been him or her, has reason to appreciate the significance of the OHS contribution. A root problem associated with Kevin's comment is the manner in which the safety profession (that's us!) concentrates so much on legal niceties. For over 50 years, the science of usability (i.e. ergonomics) has been available to safety professionals to indicate how safety can play a major part in supporting quality and productivity improvements, directly as well as indirectly through sustaining employee morale and supporting fair discrimination (in the areas of sex, gender and age differences. Only safety professionals themselves can raise the image of their own contributions to work and life more broadly by shifting the focus from legal compliance to the human value of their good work.