Posted By Phil D I have a big issue regarding pigeons nesting and generally making a mess in our warehouse. Aside from pest control shooting them, and the hawk chappy letting his loose or installing dummy hawks, and putting up netting, is there another way to get them out. I was wondering if anyone has had to deal with this issue. I know they are pests, but would like a way of removing them, unharmed. I'd appreciate any advice. Many thanks, Phil

Posted By Alan Haynes Various methods are available - such as;- Nets, Shooting, Removing eggs from nests [replace with boiled pigeon eggs] Anti-Pigeon Spiking' on all flat surfaces that pigeons use The combination of nets and spiking is reasonably effective - but only if you have cleared them out first. Also - discourage any misguided pigeon feeders, and try to minimise food scraps being left about Me - I'd shoot and poison them - but that's not PC these days

Posted By Phil D Thanks for the help. I did look on the old posts but no new ideas. This is a vast warehouse so I'll have to spend some time thinking about the best plan of action. Thank you again. Warm regards, Phil

Posted By Salus Hi Phil, I once saw a pigeon trap on the roof of a cinema, this was basically a wooden frame (1m long x 1m wide x 300mm high)with chicken wire covering, one end was open but had short lengths of fencing wire(enough to form a gate at the open end)attached to the top frame member of the open end, so if a pigeons wanted some food it went through this sort of flap of wire sections. These wire lengths then would only work one way "in" and the pigeons could not get back out because the lengths of wire were stopped from any outward movement by their length as they hit the bottom rail of the box. The length of fencing wire were attached by simply folding them around the top section of timber so that they could swing inwards but not out. place on a flat surface, fill with broken biscuits or other goodies and leave alone.Then take them to Trafalgar sq for release where I take all mine, no seriously this con - trap- tion worked.It does not harm them, is cheap and easy to make you may need to alter design for effeciency, got any apprentices? Hope this helps

Posted By garyh This is a tricky problem, which I have experienced. You will probably not be able to exclude them completely - you need to manage them. Have a plan; check out the local RSPCA attitude (so you can defend yourself if bunny huggers attack you when you get them culled). Why not get a quote from Pest controllers like "Renkotill"? A combination approach is probably needed ie restricting their access and shooting (this can be done with air rifles with pellets that shouldn't hole your roof). you must absolutely forbid anyone feeding them also. Good luck.

Posted By Rachel G Afternoon, I had the problem of dealing with a similar issue whilst being placed under some significant pressure from pressure groups to stop our policy of occasional culling. I spoke to a gentleman from picas http://www.picasuk.com/ who gave some advice. We also found that a plastic Owl on top of one of the buildings worked. Rachel

Posted By Tom Starling I would strongly advise against killing or poisoning the pigeons. Even if you kill off the current population, a new one will quickly take its place, and there may even be more. Lethal methods are only treating the symptoms, not solving the problem. There are many humane products that make an area unattractive to birds, an actual solution. Dummy hawks rarely work because they are static and unchanging. Birds are very stubborn, and they will quickly become used to an unmoving, fake hawk. There is a product, however, called TerrorEyes (http://www.bird-x.com/products/terror.html). It is essentially a large balloon with owl markings and holographic eyes that follow the birds wherever they go. This will make them intensely uncomfortable, and they will probably leave the warehouse. Netting can also work, if you can pinpoint the location where the birds are getting in. Simple polypropelene netting (http://www.bird-x.com/products/bnet.html) will secure the location from any more birds getting in. There are also sonic devices that emit a distress call of the birds, which will quickly scare them off. If the birds are particularly tenacious, the products can be used in conjunction to be highly effective. Feel free to visit http://www.bird-x.com for more information or call 800-662-5021 to have an expert assist you.

Posted By Jason Wiggins We have had the same problem here with pigeons on our radio mast. We contacted a company link attached who were very helpful. http://www.scarecrowbio-.../images/questionaire.pdf These use an acoustic sound wave. Hope this helps. Jason

Posted By Jim Walker I wasn't aware it was within the remit of RSPB to give such permissions.